According to a technical representative at Oracle in Rochester, NY, Oracle
no longer develops on Solaris. He stated that they have changed to
HP-UX for development. He said the reason was instability with Solaris.
"Koivu, Lisa" wrote:
Kevin, sure I
will. I just didn't want to muck up the list.
Here's what I
found. If anyone has any comments to add, please do.
My question was
about the utilities across different flavors of Unix and if they mean the
same thing. vmstat, iostat are the same, however the switches may
be a bit different. sar is system V only. truss you must purchase
a license for. top is freeware. There is a utility called 'collect'
that does something similar to top.
The response
regarding tru64 has been overwhelmingly positive. Some of the positive
comments I received:
1. C compiler
(Kernighan and Richie) is not ANSI compliant
and may affect any 3rd party apps.
2. Compaq
hardware used to be lagging in Oracle (Apps) patch releases. Not
anymore.
3. The
journaling filesystem makes mistakes like unplugging the wrong cord (oops!)
a simple fix instead of hours of downtime.
4. Security
- Since tru64 is not 'mainstream', e.g. marketed everywhere extremely popular,
intimate knowledge for hacking the os is not widely known. So obscurity
works in your favor.
5. Clustering
technology is mature, solid and proven.
6. tru64
is indeed a first tier platform for Oracle.
7. Compaq's
support is rated as 'very helpful'.
8. tru64
has the ability to quickly clone a filesystem.
9. OPS
can reside on a filesystem on tru64.
10. Benchmarking
Solaris E10K/64CPU against Compaq GS-160/16CPU favored the Compaq!
WOW
11.
For 9i, Oracle licensed
also the TruCluster technology from Compaq.
Oracle RAC (Real
Application Cluster, new names for OPS) for 9i will only initially be available
on tru64, truly first tier.
Caveats/ Other
comments:
1. Sun,
relying on their own proprietary hardware, may be hurting themselves in
the long run.
2. Sun
is ex-pen-sive! Compaq wins in this comparison.
3. The
future of Sun and Compaq seems a bit shaky right now, but they should pull
through in the long run.
4. There's
a bug in tru64 that doesn't allow one listener to service databases with
different versions. Workaround is multiple listeners (no big deal)
5. Oracle
does develop on Sun hardware. Calling OWWS for a Solaris system may
net an answer quicker than running tru64.
6. Avoid
the ultra sparc-2 chips from Sun. They have a problem with bad caches
causing random reboots. I saw this at a previous employer.
7. If it's
possible, consider IBM/AIX. IBM's sales force is highly trained in
administration so you can talk real system architecture with them (not
that I'm an admin or architect, I am neither). IBM's support is also
top notch.
Special thanks
to the following people for their responses:
Scott Shafer
Ron Morton
Lee Robertson
Jerry Hess
Michael Hand
Murali Vallath
Joe Hatchel
Mike Kurt
Ray Stell
Darren Browett
Stephen Andert
Stefan Moeding
And, the one
and only clown.... Ross Mohan
Like I said,
I'm overwhelmed at how helpful everyone is.
-----Original Message-----
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Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:02 PM
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RE: Thanks everyone - tru64
Lisa:
How about contributing a summary of
the feedback?
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:37
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
I just wanted to say thank you to everyone
who responded to me when I asked
for info on tru64 Unix. I received
much more info and feedback than I ever
expected!
This list is extremely helpful and
I am very appreciative of how willing
people are to answer questions.
I just hope I contribute enough to make up
for how much everyone here has helped
me.
HELP!
Have a great day, all.
Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Administrator
954-935-4117
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