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Home -> Community -> Mailing Lists -> Oracle-L -> Re[2]: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...
Don't hold your breath!! BTW: Do you remember the claim of the nuclear power industry? That by the turn of the century electricity would be so cheap and plentiful we could waste it at will. Tell that to those folks in California!!!
Dick Goulet
____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: "Don Granaman" <granaman_at_home.com> Date: 5/31/2001 3:35 PM
What a hoot! I mean all these wild statements about not needing DBA's anymore (or sometime in the future). Is Oracle actually getting simpler with each new release? With tongue firmly planted in cheek, here is the Oracle 5.1 DBA "OCP" exam. You be the judge...
Q1) How do you cold start an instance? (A1: IOR I[NIT]) Q2) How do you warm start an instance? (A2: IOR W[ARM]) Q3) How do you shut down an instance (A3: IOR S[HUT]) Q4) Name all the background processes? (A4: ARH, BIW, BBWR, and CLN) Q5) What is ODL? (A5: Oracle Data Loader)
Passing score: 60%
I can remember hearing about how by the turn of the century (the last one that is), programming would be completely obsolete. I can remember hearing many years ago about how we would all be riding in robotic flying cars by now and about how automation would leave so little work for humans to do that mankind's greatest challenge would be to find something to do with all that leisure time. I'm still waiting...
-Don Granaman
[Certifiable OraSaurus]
> I need to find the article I had saved about Oracle 6.0 (as we were
preparing to upgrade from 5.1). It was something about how the 6.0 DBA would
be bored and would now be able to help appdev.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earl
>
>
> ---
>
> TheOracleDBA
> theoracledba_at_lycos.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, 25 May 2001 09:28:53
> Vergara, Michael (TEM) wrote:
> >I can remember as far back as version 7.3 where Oracle was touting that
> >"you won't need a DBA for our new database". It hasn't happened yet,
> >has it? Oh yes, it's easier, but we're still here!
> >
> >And besides, what were they offering in the cold call? Replacing your
> >DBAs with their DBAs. At (probably) twice the price. Outsourcing Lives!
> >
> >Just my $0.02 worth.
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >---
>
>===========================================================================
> >Michael P. Vergara | I've got a PBS mind in an MTV world
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> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:27 AM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >Very stupid thing to do by Oracle, considering the fact that many Oracle
> >purchasing decisions are made by Oracle DBAs. To shut us out like that
will
> >most certainly have an effect on Oracle Sales. Hell, you don't need me
> >anymore? I'll switch political sides and jump the ship to IBM, or <gasp>
> >Microsoft...
> >
> >Far as their "superior" i-dba team, I sure hope those are different
people
> >from the ones you get on first line of Support...
> >
> >Gary Weber
> >
> >PS. Or maybe we should all become Oracle salesmen (saleswomen)....
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:02 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> >My boss just received a cold call from Oracle that he let me listen in
on.
> >They have a new push on for their i-dba support package. For just a
little
> >more money (they did not define little), "we will replace your dba's with
> >our superior support team that will monitor your database 24x7 and
> >proactively eliminate problems. This will allow you to redesign you
office
> >to offload these cumbersome DBA tasks and allow your workers to do other
> >things. You will never have another database problem." I felt good
when
> >my boss indicated that we had no base problems but based on this, I guess
we
> >will have to become sqlserver DBAs or <gasp> developers... :)
> >
> >Ahh, Friday, wonderful Friday, it seems like you've been away all
week...
> >
> >--Chris
> >Chris.Bowes_at_Kosa.com
> >
> >
>
>
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