RE: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

Hey.... I like to go home and watch tv sometimes, there's nothing wrong with that. The Simpsons are one of the last things in this world that actually makes me laugh, out loud. It doesn't meen that I am not a "go-getter", or a slacker, it's just something I like to do:) (I am not offended, just babbling) Hey, if I could live on this Island we are creating, DBAIsland, and drive a hum vee all day and drink brewskiees and socialize with good people every night I would do it in an instant!!

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Patrice J
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:41 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I am reading a book now, called Habits of the Heart, that gives a historical perspective on different philosophical streams within American society.

One of them is the utilitarian freedom one, where everyone should have the freedom to say or do whatever they like, as long as it doesn't impact other people. The problem is, there isn't much debate about what people want to do with that freedom, many people just end up going home and watching tv because they don't have any goals or purpose in life.

Someone in the 1800s noticed that this was becoming a trend, and he expressed misgivings because there is no social discourse, he saw then that some people who held lucrative positions just went to work, earned money, and went home.

Before that trend appeared, people were mostly self-employed farmers, wheelrights, whatever, and the town/community was the focus. Because a business owner could only be successful if the townspeople like him as a person, if the owner did good things for the town overall, etc. etc. We can argue that that no longer exists, most towns now are just bedroom communities and people no longer work in the same town their house is in. They commute. There was a down side to this town-centric view of things of course (there are always good points and bad points), the chief one being the conformity that was imposed on people. Salem comes to mind...

Anyway, maybe one day Oracle will release a patch for these problems, or we will be Oracle citizens instead of country-bound.

: )

Er, this does not reflect the views of my employer, etc. etc.

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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        From:   Mohan, Ross [SMTP:MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com]
        Sent:   Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:14 PM
        To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
        Subject:        OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

        <rant on>

        ep,

        Any idiot can see we're the freest country in the world!
        Free to do what is expected, or get thrown in jail at a
        rate exceeding most other "civilized" nations. Free to
        subsidize tobacco and alcohol (and related deaths) and
        throw "dangerous criminals" in jail for using cannabis.
        Free to have almost the highest teenage pregnancy rate
        in the world. Free to fight for your rights just as long
        as your money lasts! Free to buy as much of whatever you
        want until the money, environment, or patience of the
        less fortunate runs out.

        So much freedom, you could almost choke on it.

        Come on, you commie, admit it: you just stay here for
        the Burgers and Coca-Cola!

        "You have no chance to survive make your time"

        rm

        p.s. If you want to reach me, I'll be in the prayer meeting
        John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, now holds each morning
        inside the Department of Justice.

        <rant off>



        || -----Original Message-----

        || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:PierceED_at_csus.edu]

        || Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:07 PM

        || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

        || Subject: Re: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

        ||

        ||

        || Many professional women in the USA have found it necessary to

        || purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal elements in




        || public places. Children are constantly under psychological

assault


        || being exposed to media violence. The "liberal" education system

is


        || devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless "PC" relativism,




        || materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant

        || dismissal).

        ||

        || Western "freedoms" can be seen from a variety of perspectives.

        ||

        ||

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