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Re:RE: Bulkcopy

From: <dgoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:17:22 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0030AD43.20010522075633@fatcity.com>


Glenn,

    At the last NorthEast Oracle Users Group meeting we had a developer from Oracle in Nashua NH who's purpose in life is the utilities like SQL*Loader, Export and Import. He told us of the "replacement of SQL*Loader" in Oracle 9. Basically you've hit it on the head. You place the file somewhere where the DB can see it and using SQL*Loader like syntax describe the table(s) to the database. Then you can use plain old SQL to either read and process the data or manipulate it as you like. I believe he said we could even index the data therein and that it could be used for either data extraction and insertion. Sounds interesting, can't wait to get my hands on it.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Glenn Travis <c-glenn.travis_at_wcom.com>
Date:       5/22/2001 7:16 AM

apologies. no offense was intended.

on a side note, Informix has a feature that lets you define a table which references a flat file in unix. This allows them to bypass the buffer cache and facilitate fast table loads. I believe I read that this will be in Oracle 9 also, but I can't find the references at this time. Anyone have more info?
  -----Original Message-----
  From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Carle, William T (Bill), NLCIO
  Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:45 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L   Subject: RE: Bulkcopy

  AT&T uses Oracle. I'm well acquainted with sqlldr, and I assumed that the questioner was too. I took his question to be: was there a bulkcopy utility in addition to sqlldr and the answer as far as I know is no.

  Bill Carle

  AT&T

  Database Administrator

  816-995-3922

  wcarle_at_att.com

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Glenn Travis [mailto:c-glenn.travis_at_wcom.com]   Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 2:20 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L   Subject: RE: Bulkcopy

  sqlldr. AT&T obviously uses Sybase.

   -----Original Message-----
  From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Carle, William T (Bill), NLCIO
  Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:46 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L   Subject: RE: Bulkcopy

  Howdy,

      The only bulkcopy utility that I know of is a Sybase utility. The Sybase bcp command moves data from a flat file to a Sybase table and vice versa. I don't know of any such command in Oracle.

  Bill Carle

  AT&T

  Database Administrator

  816-995-3922

  wcarle_at_att.com

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Robertson Lee - lerobe [mailto:lerobe_at_acxiom.co.uk]   Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:16 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L   Subject: Bulkcopy

  All,

  Anyone heard of this utility for Oracle ?. Someone mentioned it today and I didn't have a clue. They said it would be in $ORACLE_HOME/bin. Nothing there !!

  Regards

  Lee

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class=400281417-22052001>apologies.&nbsp; no offense was intended.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=400281417-22052001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=400281417-22052001>on a side note, Informix has a feature that lets you define a table which references a flat file in unix.&nbsp; This allows them to bypass the buffer cache and facilitate fast table loads.&nbsp; I believe I read that this will be in Oracle 9 also, but I can't find the references at this time.&nbsp; Anyone have more info?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  uses Oracle. I&#8217;m well acquainted with sqlldr, and I assumed that the   questioner was too. I took his question to be: was there a bulkcopy utility in

  addition to sqlldr and the answer as far as I know is   no.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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  that I know of is a Sybase utility. The Sybase bcp command moves data from a   flat file to a Sybase table and vice versa. I don&#8217;t know of any such command
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  style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original   Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Robertson   Lee - lerobe [mailto:lerobe_at_acxiom.co.uk]<BR><B><SPAN   style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, May 21, 2001 12:16   PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Multiple recipients of

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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in"><FONT color=black face=Arial
  size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Anyone   heard of this utility for Oracle ?. Someone mentioned it today and I didn't   have a clue. They said it would be in $ORACLE_HOME/bin. Nothing there   !!</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN   style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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