RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

I think each country has pretty sides and bad sides. Weather in Saudi Arabia is perfect compared with Germany, but loosing the hand for the case you steel something worth of five bucks? Redicilous and not a good sign for tolerance and respecting each other in general. I know western cultures are looking like sinners in their eyes, but they should watch their garden first. A Society with nearby unlimited resources like the Saudi´s can easily effort everything what makes life easy. Everyone should decide on his own, where it is safe and ok to live. I would like to live in the USA, but as i have family, my wife is strictly against it. Know why? The same number of people killed in Germany by Car accidents, is killed in the Staates by gun bullets. So, decision is easy, i guess. And stop blaming Canada, nice area. In my eyes, ok?

jhawkins_at_primary.net_at_fatcity.com on 18.05.2001 16:36:47

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Totally agree with everything said here. I blame it all on lawyers and the media.

I've got an idea - how about a bunch of us move our families to a secluded Pacific island with no lawyers or televisions. We'll sit around a monitor fully-cached databases with no users or developers...ah....Utopia!

Jim

> That's sort of the whole nature vs nurture argument and it could very
well
> last the rest of our lives. Fact is, you could be raiesed in the United
> States by a fine upstanding family, but you could still turn around and
go
> gun everyone down at school the next day. It's not necessarily how you
were
> raised or who raised you. Personally, I think one of the biggest
problems
> in the United States is the media. They put everything right in your
face,
> they manipulate the truth. Kids are subjected to movies of violence, and
> yes it goes to nurture here, and their parents are letting them watch
this
> crap on tv. We live in a law suit happy society, everyone is angry at
> everyone else if they have something that that person wants and in todays
> society it appears as though people will go to any extent to get what
they
> want. Personally I am quite sick of it, watching the news does nothing
but
> bring me down. (whoo, that's enough of that, too early in the morning)
> Kev
>
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> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:00 PM
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>
>
> Just as a coin has two side, every thing has two sides - I'd say - good
and
> bad.
> What you are is determined by your behaviour
> Your behaviour is determinied by your surroundings - be it parents ,
> friends or foes.
> Similarly, what a nation is determined by its ruler and its neighbours.
>
> So, It largely depends on our attitude - how we take it.
> As, one poet says -
> "Our attitude determines our altitude in life"
>
> So, to sum it up - if you are going to make a living from Saudi - then
you
> have to trust them and befriend them and respect them - and you will get
> respected..
>
> I can keep writing like this on and on - but.... I think I'll stop here..
>
> Bye now,
> Rajaram.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric D. Pierce [SMTP:PierceED_at_csus.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:06 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
>
> reality check.
>
> Consider the poignant implications of the recent anniversary of the
> Oklahoma city terrorism.
>
> The simple fact is that a very high percentage of professional women
> that have jobs like real estate sales requiring isolated contact with
> strangers *are* armed (as you state, many with "boutique" designer
> guns). it is because they have been assaulted or threatened, or are
> close to women that have told vivid stories of such.
>
> Employees at this campus are required to take *mandatory* "campus
> violence" workshops now. Last year a professor was severly beaten by
> some petty thieves after leaving a night class about 2 minutes walk
> from my office. Several years ago, someone held an admission
> counselor hostage at gun point in the building I work in. The person
> was upset that they weren't admitted to the university.
>
> regards,
> ep
> (unarmed, but unrepentantly politically incorrect)
>
> On 17 May 2001, at 13:16, Marianne Brooks wrote:
>
> Date sent: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:16:06 -0800
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>
> > SET MODE SILLY ON
> >
> > Damn, I *knew* I forgot to buy something on my last shopping trip to
> > Nordstroms!
> >
> > Note to self: - buy gun I didn't know I needed. Remember to purchase
> > extras for friends who don't have them either(the
gift
> > that keeps
> > on taking?)
>
> ...
>
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