RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

Totally agree with everything said here. I blame it all on lawyers and the media.

I've got an idea - how about a bunch of us move our families to a secluded Pacific island with no lawyers or televisions. We'll sit around a monitor fully-cached databases with no users or developers...ah....Utopia!

Jim

> That's sort of the whole nature vs nurture argument and it could very well
> last the rest of our lives. Fact is, you could be raiesed in the United
> States by a fine upstanding family, but you could still turn around and go
> gun everyone down at school the next day. It's not necessarily how you
were
> raised or who raised you. Personally, I think one of the biggest problems
> in the United States is the media. They put everything right in your
face,
> they manipulate the truth. Kids are subjected to movies of violence, and
> yes it goes to nurture here, and their parents are letting them watch this
> crap on tv. We live in a law suit happy society, everyone is angry at
> everyone else if they have something that that person wants and in todays
> society it appears as though people will go to any extent to get what they
> want. Personally I am quite sick of it, watching the news does nothing
but
> bring me down. (whoo, that's enough of that, too early in the morning)
> Kev
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:00 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Just as a coin has two side, every thing has two sides - I'd say - good
and
> bad.
> What you are is determined by your behaviour
> Your behaviour is determinied by your surroundings - be it parents ,
> friends or foes.
> Similarly, what a nation is determined by its ruler and its neighbours.
>
> So, It largely depends on our attitude - how we take it.
> As, one poet says -
> "Our attitude determines our altitude in life"
>
> So, to sum it up - if you are going to make a living from Saudi - then you
> have to trust them and befriend them and respect them - and you will get
> respected..
>
> I can keep writing like this on and on - but.... I think I'll stop here..
>
> Bye now,
> Rajaram.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric D. Pierce [SMTP:PierceED_at_csus.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:06 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
>
> reality check.
>
> Consider the poignant implications of the recent anniversary of the
> Oklahoma city terrorism.
>
> The simple fact is that a very high percentage of professional women
> that have jobs like real estate sales requiring isolated contact with
> strangers *are* armed (as you state, many with "boutique" designer
> guns). it is because they have been assaulted or threatened, or are
> close to women that have told vivid stories of such.
>
> Employees at this campus are required to take *mandatory* "campus
> violence" workshops now. Last year a professor was severly beaten by
> some petty thieves after leaving a night class about 2 minutes walk
> from my office. Several years ago, someone held an admission
> counselor hostage at gun point in the building I work in. The person
> was upset that they weren't admitted to the university.
>
> regards,
> ep
> (unarmed, but unrepentantly politically incorrect)
>
> On 17 May 2001, at 13:16, Marianne Brooks wrote:
>
> Date sent: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:16:06 -0800
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>
> > SET MODE SILLY ON
> >
> > Damn, I *knew* I forgot to buy something on my last shopping trip to
> > Nordstroms!
> >
> > Note to self: - buy gun I didn't know I needed. Remember to purchase
> > extras for friends who don't have them either(the gift
> > that keeps
> > on taking?)
>
> ...
>
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