RE: BMC Patrol - 2nd Wave

You haven't been a DBA too long have you?

... if you manage the db, you are responsible. period.

at least that's the way it's been everywhere for me, but I could be wrong...

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:51 PM
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One advantage to never having been consulted on whether it should be done and having consultants installing it is that it would be hard to blame me for anything that goes wrong :).

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:13 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

My experience is that BMC leaves a big footprint on the systems it monitors. So unless you have a system with 6+ cpu's the hogs reported are BMC related or the slow system is caused by BMC. And the $$$$$$ it costs, ouch.

I have seen better results in shops using Big Brother ( http://bb4.com/
<http://bb4.com/> ) or NetSaint ( http://netsaint.sourceforge.net/
<http://netsaint.sourceforge.net/> ).

Maybe Patrol works for some people. But my advise is to stay away so that when the project dies and they try to decide who is to blame for spending $$$$$$ on a POS you will not be within ear shot.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

-----Original Message-----
<mailto:JayMiller_at_TDWaterhouse.com> ]

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 1:03 PM
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So my boss calls me over yesterday and tells me he needs two servers for 2nd

Wave to install BMC on to monitor the databases. I say, huh?

Apparently the CIO decided to have a consulting company (2nd Wave) install and configure BMC to monitor all the databases (Oracle and SQL Server) in the company.
I met with them briefly today (only because I asked to, it hadn't been deemed necessary before that) and I'll admit it doesn't look too bad so far,

even if we already get all the information they provide (plus more) from various sql scripts and statspack.

Does anyone have any gotchas, warnings, "send out your resume NOW" recommendations for working with the BMC Patrol product? Any experience with 2nd Wave?

Thanks in advance!

Jay Miller

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