RE: OT RE: comp.oracle.databases.server vs ORACLE-L: deathmatch

LoL! OK, I'm sorry.

I'm debugging a dictionary cache explosion problem, and "support" just informed me that any/all of my questions cannot be answered because they are INTERNAL SECRETS.

Yea right; maybe this year, until a smart guy who cares (like Steve Adams or Jonathan Lewis or.... ) figures them out, or they are published in the next Concepts manual.) So, I am in "send me continuous 1 Gigabyte dumps and just shut up and sit on yer hands" mode.

Up until this, I haven't filed a "TAR" -- a lie, oxymoron, and hint all wrapped in one (the lie is that you'll get any technical information, the oxymoron is that the acronym implies the word "action" and the hint is the word "request") -- in about a year, and now I remember why.

There. I'm better now.

Having problems I can't fix (because they are "self-tuning") and paid "support" that doesn't really tweaks me right out.

• Ross

p.s. There are, as we know, a handful MAGICALLY WONDERFUL support people at OWS. You and I both know one in common. But they are few and far between, and deucedly hard to find.

|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: A. Bardeen [mailto:abardeen1_at_yahoo.com]
|| Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 3:26 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: Re: OT RE: comp.oracle.databases.server vs
|| ORACLE-L: deathmatch
||
||
|| Ross,
||
|| You're so shy and reserved today... what gives? ;)
||
|| --- "Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com> wrote:
|| > I don't want anyone grabbing my "content", thank you
|| > very much.
|| >
|| > Bunch a rat bastard, mind-maggoting sh*tballs.....
|| >
|| > || -----Original Message-----
|| > || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:PierceED_at_csus.edu]
|| > || Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 1:56 PM
|| > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| > || Subject: Re: comp.oracle.databases.server vs
|| > ORACLE-L: deathmatch
|| > ||
|| > ||
|| > || Paul,
|| > ||
|| > || I haven't look at newsgroup c.o.d.s. for a long
|| > time, basically
|| > || because I got out of the habit of looking at
|| > newsgroups, the
|| > || messaging formatting and software needed seems a
|| > little "unnatural"
|| > || (convoluted) compared to email. But, I'll admit
|| > to laziness. I have
|| > || enough on my hands just trying to read all the
|| > Oracle-NT
|| > || documentation. :)
|| > ||
|| > || Anyway, why wait for IOUG to start a ORACLE-NT-L?
|| > ||
|| > || As far as technical issues goes, it could easily
|| > be done on yahoo
|| > || groups (formerly "egroups.com") or some similar
|| > "free" site (e.g.,
|| > || http://www.escribe.com/ ???), or fatcity (which I
|| > know you feel is a
|| > || bit unreliable/unperformant). I know that Jared
|| > felt uncomfortable
|| > || with the old "eGroups.com" TOS (terms of
|| > service), and after I read
|| > || them, I also felt that some of the
|| > vague/legalistic terminology
|| > || sounded like it might be "funny". For instance,
|| > pat of the
|| > || eGroups.com TOS sounds like it is saying that
|| > they have rights to
|| > || claim ownership of the content of all material
|| > posted, etc. I don't
|| > || know if Jared had other concerns than privacy
|| > ones.
|| > ||
|| > || As far as the "Culture" of any Oracle-NT-L, I can
|| > see the possible
|| > || advantage of having some "weighty" expert
|| > personalities
|| > || involved. The
|| > || "culture", and therefore utility, of an email
|| > list "community" is
|| > || almost always enhanced when the list is created
|| > with a good core
|| > || group of people that can provide a sense of
|| > leadership, purpose and
|| > || vision.
|| > ||
|| > || regards,
|| > || ep
|| > ||
|| > ||
|| > || On 9 May 2001, at 23:40, Paul Drake wrote:
|| > ||
|| > || Date sent: Wed, 09 May 2001 23:40:20 -0800
|| > || To: Multiple recipients of list
|| > ORACLE-L
|| > || <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
|| > ||
|| > || > I have to say that the newsgroup
|| > || comp.oracle.databases.server is much
|| > || > more NT Friendly.
|| > || > (IOUG: Did anything happen from IOUG concerning
|| > the
|| > || ORACLE-NT-L mailing
|| > || > list?)
|| > || > Not just Jonathan Lewis, but Sybrand Baker,
|| > Howard Rodgers, Ricky
|| > || > Sanchez put out some pretty good stuff.
|| > ||
|| > || ...
|| > ||
|| > ||
|| > || --
|| > || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
|| > http://www.orafaq.com
|| > || --
|| > || Author: Eric D. Pierce
|| > || INET: PierceED_at_csus.edu
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