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RE: might be really old topic, but please take a look

From: Mohan, Ross <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com>
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 12:33:09 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.002F9014.20010503123525@fatcity.com>

Sybase diverged from SQL*Server some time ago.

The current engine, ASE ( Adaptive Server Engine, current version 12.0 ) is quite the OLTP rocket.

|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca]
|| Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 3:22 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: RE: might be really old topic, but please take a look
||
||
|| Leslie,
||
|| Sybase is what SQL Server is built from, I think. I don't
|| know much about
|| Sybase, but I Know that SQL Server 7 only has one
|| transaction log file (redo
|| log file), that you have to back up regularly and truncate
|| otherwise your
|| database will freeze. In SQL server there is no such thing
|| as an "archived
|| log", you have to back up the transaction log's datafile to
|| get your backup
|| of transactions. This is just one example. Does Sybase
|| support multiple
|| log files? What about multiple archiving processes? That
|| was a bit of a
|| bottleneck in Oracle7 for us, and I had created the max
|| number of redo log
|| files. I can't imagine what it would be like with only one
|| transaction log
|| file... I am looking forward to our upgrade to 8.1.6., I am
|| curious to see
|| what multiple archiving processes can do.
||
|| Re. NT and UNIX, does Microsoft still sell NT? Here we could only by
|| Windows2000 licenses.
||
|| : )
||
|| NT is good for small to medium databases that are not too
|| mission critical,
|| in my opinion, but from experience I much prefer UNIX.
||
|| I know you probably want numbers to compare, maybe you could
|| ask DBAs how
|| long their NT and UNIX servers have been running without
|| interruption, and
|| why they were brought down the last time...
||
|| Last I read on the 'net the new Windows versions will have
|| new names. The
|| personal software (read Win9x/ME stream plus NT Workstation)
|| will be called
|| WindowsXP, while the corporate operating systems (read: NT
|| Server 4 and NT
|| Dataserver) will be called Windows2002. I don't know when these new
|| versions will be released, I think that for Windows2002 MS
|| is aiming for 4th
|| quarter of 2001 at this point. That is... this coming Autumn!
||
|| Regards,
|| Patrice Boivin
|| Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
||
|| Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
|| Technology Services | Services technologiques
|| Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique
|| Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO
||
|| E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca <mailto:boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
||
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Streeter, Lerone A LBX
|| [SMTP:StreeLA2_at_HPD.Abbott.com]
|| Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 3:27 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: RE: might be really old topic, but please take a
|| look
||
|| briefly:
||
|| our choice was oracle/NT, based mainly on division/corporate
|| direction which
|| was based on the strengths of oracle. widely
|| installed, industry
|| leader,
|| robust platform.
||
|| NT was a no-brainer; the majority of our knowledge is
|| NT. price and
|| complexity were considered also, even though you have
|| more control
|| over
|| *nix, the price of boxii to run it on as well as the cost of
|| training and
|| associated learning curve made *nix an unattractive option.
||
|| our user base is small-to-medium so an NT solution
|| should suffice,
|| if we
|| were larger or more widely dispersed or web based; we'd
|| look harder
|| at *nix.
||
|| remember i said brief.
||
|| ===========================================
|| Lerone Streeter
|| System Analyst
|| Abbott LBG
|| StreeLA2_at_hpd.abbott.com
|| ===========================================
|| -----Original Message-----
|| Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:51 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||
||
|| Oh, ha! that is an old one:
||
||
|| Oracle on Unix is the "only" choice.
|| No need to research at all! Just go out and buy one!
|| :)
|| Ross
|| p.s. give us more info, and you'll get a higher quality
|| answer. GIGO
||
|| || -----Original Message-----
|| || From: Leslie Lu [mailto:leslie_y_lu_at_yahoo.com]
|| || Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:37 PM
|| || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| || Subject: Q: might be really old topic, but please
|| take a look
|| ||
|| ||
|| || Probably this has been posed million times, but I
|| || really like to know. We'll have a meeting about this
|| || in our company, and I'd love to contribute someting.
|| || Any idea on the following issue, any link, paper, etc,
|| || will be greatly appreciated.
|| ||
|| || pros and cons of
|| ||
|| || 1. Oracle vs Sybase
|| ||
|| || 2. Unix vs NT
|| ||
|| ||
|| || Leslie
|| ||
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