RE: Re[2]: Oracle vs DB2

From: Henry Poras <Henry.Poras_at_ctp.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:42:24 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.002F236B.20010425115556@fatcity.com>

I guess they can make their money by targeting the high end and having a few high paying customers, or be more reasonable and have a broader base. I get the feeling that Larry's ego (psychoanalysis from a distance, ain't it wonderful) would drive him to both the $ and the broad base. If you are competing against Bill Gates, you not only need the money, but also the exposure. Everyone knows Windows, you can't have just the elite knowing about Oracle. So where does that put us in 6 months?

Henry

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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I too would love to see somebody give Oracle a reality check in regards to the prices of their software, but as much as I hate to say it, I just don't see it happening. Why? Because the ONLY reality check that Oracle is going to actually LISTEN to and do something about would be for people to stop using/buying their products. And I just don't see that happening either. In the enterprise data market, Oracle has the best product available (IMHO), and I think most people, and especially including Oracle Corp., know this. Based on that information alone, I just don't see them backing down their prices when, as much as people hate paying, they still will, because it's the best. =(

-::YEX::-
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Sent: Wednesday, 25 April, 2001 12:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Tim,

Thanks for the copy of the marketing speil, I had not heard that one before.
But, I'll take great exception to the claim that:

"It would make sense to select a database product based on price alone if database products were the predominant part of the overall information technology expenditures But this is simply not the case. Software costs (including upgrades and technical support) typically represent less than 15% of
an IT budget and are small compared to the overall costs of hardware, operations
and maintenance, consulting and training."

I don't know about the remainder of you, but the cost of Oracle's software
is quickly eclipsing the cost of everything else. Hence the beginnings of this
post, which I agree with. In our company our yearly Oracle Support Agreement
renewal is the #3 cost item and the cost of a new Oracle license exceeds the cost of the server it's going on. Someone PLEASE give these guys a "reality check" or else a good swift kick in the pants!!

Dick Goulet
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