RE: Oracle vs DB2

|| When I asked my salescritter about this he said "Well we
|| sure are selling alot of licenses" - Go figure...

LoL...you know what I think? I think there was an INTERNAL memo circulated around Oracle sales that basically acknowledged the problem, and decided that DAMAGE CONTROL would be to give each complainant the FALSE IMPRESSION that they were the only one with a complaint. This would tend to ISOLATE the customer, and make them more likely to "pay up" than buck what they were being told was the industry trend.

||
|| Thanks,
|| Frank
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| Patrice J
|| Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:45 AM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||
||
|| Well,
||
|| This is on topic - www.wired.com <http://www.wired.com> today has an
|| article re. IBM announced that it is buying Informix for $1Billion.
||
|| Ah, if only I had that kind of money myself - I could take
|| more Oracle
|| courses!
||
|| I don't know what will happen with Informix then, does that
|| mean they will
|| gobble it up and DB2 will be the only option in a couple of years?
||
|| Regards,
|| Patrice Boivin
|| Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
||
|| Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
|| Technology Services | Services technologiques
|| Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique
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||
|| E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca <mailto:boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
||
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Dennis Taylor [SMTP:ismgr_at_pctc.com]
|| Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:57 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: Oracle vs DB2
||
|| Disclaimer: I am *not* trying to start a religious war, and I am
|| *not*
|| trying to advocate DB2. I am simply offended. Thus this post.
||
|| As some may remember, I'm doing an evaluation of Oracle
|| vs DB2 vs
|| SQLServer
|| to determine our future direction. Here's a datum that makes a
|| significant
|| difference to us, dollar-wise.
||
|| With Oracle, in order to make a database accessible to
|| the internet
|| through
|| a web page, you have to buy an unlimited-user
|| enterprise license. We
|| had a
|| senior sales person in our office yesterday, and we asked this
|| question a
|| number of different ways. He bobbed and he weaved, but
|| he did not
|| deny it.
|| And the quote he supplied afterwards does not address
|| the issue at
|| all.
||
|| Cost of unlimited-user Enterprise version for our
|| installation (your
|| mileage may vary) = Approx $160,000 Cdn.
||
|| IBM, for the same purpose, will sell you DB2 UDB
|| Workgroup edition
|| (1
|| user), and something called WE Internet Access, for a
|| total price of
|| $6000
|| Cdn. I have a written quote from an IBM salescritter to
|| this effect.
||
|| $6000. $160,000. $6000. $160,000. Hm. Let me think.....
||
|| I respectfully submit that Oracle's pricing structure
|| is out of line
|| with
|| market realities, and may have to undergo significant revision.
||
||
||
|| Dennis Taylor
|| --------------------------------
|| Don't be fooled by old cliches - He who laughs last may have
|| just figured out the joke.
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