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RE: (Fwd) Tar # 1339336.996:run all on one win2000 box: OEM, DB,

From: MacGregor, Ian A. <ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:40:48 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.002EBDC0.20010418073134@fatcity.com>

I would not run any web server on the same box as my database for security reasons. A web server is another entity which can possibly be exploited by unscrupulous individuals, perhaps giving them control of the machine. I certainly don't want this happening on a database server.

Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
ian_at_slac.stanford.edu

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:15 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Forms web server

Larry & folks,

Still not sure what it all means!

They don't seem to be able to answer specifically on Forms *Server* for some reason. I'll continue asking tomorrow.

regards,
ep

                 1339336.996
                                   Open Date
                                                 14-APR-01 00:45:05
  Support Identifier 
                 xxxxxxx
                                   Last Update
                                                 17-APR-01 20:08:12
  Product
                 Oracle Server
                 - Enterprise
                 Edition
                                   Product Version  
                                                 8.1.7
  Platform
                 MS Windows 2000

  Abstract
                                              

  run all on one win2000 box: OEM, DB, Forms web server ?

  Resolution History                                               

  14-APR-01 00:45:06 GMT ...

  ### Please describe your problem:###
  Can all three run on one win2000 box:   OEM, DB, Forms web server ?

What I need is a statement elaborating on the same issues   as raised in tar #123 1449.996

 My recollection of what I was told on the phone during discussion   of the issues in tar #123 1449 .996 was that as of db v 8.1.7,   it is not possible torun the db and forms web server on the same   win2000 box.

  I hope I'm not confusing something, e.g., what was actually said   previously was that you [*]can't[*] run the db v 8.1.7 and *OEM* on the   same win2000 box.
  Please provide info on pertinent notes, white papers, etc., if   possible.
  Thanks!
  Eric
  email:pierceed_at_csus.edu
  (or phone 916-278-7586 if that is easier/ more appropriate)

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  Contact me via : E-mail -> PierceED_at_csus.edu



  14-APR-01 01:26:16 GMT   I think for the forms server / database running on the same box , the best group to talk to
  would be the forms group.

  xfr dataserver -> forms



  15-APR-01 06:07:51 GMT   Forms 6.0.8.10.3 (Patch 1), 6.0.8.11.3 (Rel 2), 6.0.8.12.1(Patch 3A), 6.0.8.13, (Patch 4) are certified
  for

  windows 2000. forms 6.0.8.12.1 (Patch 3) has been withdrawn for the 8.1.7 database. The check any
  other

  certified products for oracle you can go to metalink.oracle.com Then go to product lifcycle and
  certifications

  the verify and product certifications for any platform.

  @scl



  16-APR-01 19:03:12 GMT   New info : Uh.... can somone explain how that "answer" was related   to the original question (see subject line), or what it   means otherwise?
  Better yet, please look up the name of the analyst who   called me on tar #1231449.996, and have her contact me   again to clarify the issue.
  Thanks,
  Eric
  email: PierceED_at_csus.edu
  ph# (916) 278-7586

  17-APR-01 15:21:34 GMT   Your tar has been assigned to an analyst....

  17-APR-01 18:50:28 GMT   OEM 2.2 and 8.1.7 enterprize editions can live together on the same machine in the same Oracle_home.
  Developer 6i can reside on the same machine but has to be installed into a seperate oracle home.
  Intelegent agent comes with 8.1.7 and does not need to be installed from OEM.

  Hope this helps.



  17-APR-01 19:33:08 GMT   New info : Thanks for letting me know that OEM and DB can run on the same box.

  I don't think I would want to run Developer6i (to develop a form) on the same
  server box, but I would want to use the "webified" version of such a form on   the same box.

  So, part of the original question remains: can the Forms *web* server run on   the same box as DB (&/or OEM)?

  In the previous tar, I was told (verbally) that it is *not* possible to run the   equivalent of WebDB and DB8.1.7on the same box, but I wanted "written"   clarification of that point.

  As you might notice if you read the previous tar on this subject, I'm not   currently using these products (and therefor may not be using the precise   terminology that Oracle Tech Support is comfortable with), we are doing design   and capacity planning for a small application, and I want to know if I will
  need more than one NT server to implemented a "webified" database/forms   implementation, v8.1.7.

  My recollection is that with DB8.1.6, and earlier, with WebDB/etc., it was   possible to run on one server box, but that as of DB8.1.7, the product that   replaces WebDB (OiAS????) can *NOT* run on the same box as the DB/OEM.   I need some oneto tell me if that is correct, or not, or to request additional   clarification.
  Thanks,
  Eric
  email: pierceed_at_csus.edu
  ph# (916) 278-7586



  17-APR-01 20:08:02 GMT   Developer 6i can live on the same box as DB (&/or OEM) they have to be in seperate Oracle homes.
  OEM is installed with the database in its oracle home.   Portal30, the replacement for webdb, resides in the database, not the filesystem.

  I have it all on my box.
  The information you seek is in the install guides.   you can look for the documentation at
  docs.oracle.com

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