RE: stupid DBA

Cool. Thanks for the info, Stephen. I'll let you know how it goes.

--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana, USA

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Walt:

I think you won't be too upset with Linux. At my previous job, part of my responsibilities included several Linux machines (2 DNS and 3 FTP). I did not even know about one of the FTP servers for about 6 months. During that time we had several times that we had power outages (mostly scheduled due to construction nearby). Since we didn't know about it, it was never shut down gracefully and always came back up fine. I know it came back fine because one day we were looking around the computer room and saw it and tried to figure out who used this box. So we powered it off and had a phone call within 30 minutes. There was a job that ftp'd a file to this box every 15 minutes from one of out HPUX boxes and then someone would "on-demand" pick up that file from an outside source. When the ftp from the HPUX box failed, an IT Analyst would get notified.

We had to hack /etc/passwd to reset root's password.

The moral of the story is that with no patches, no maintenance and absolutely no TLC, this box was more reliable than the NT boxes running IIS or the Netware file servers.

Good luck and keep us posted how it goes.

Stephen Andert

>>> wweaver_at_rightnow.com 04/14 6:15 PM >>> How was it mean? Considering how well they seem to do their job, it would be a heck of a lot easier to become a Chinese fighter pilot than a nurse.

Okay, now that I've completely polarized this group, I gotta ask: has anyone on this group run a large scale, enterprise-type web hosting site using VA Linux machines and Oracle? I'm in the process of deploying a couple of VA Linux 4450's as our backend database servers, and will be live with at least one site by the end of this week. I know that Larry Ellison's hobby, Net Ledger, uses several thousand VA Linux 2230's to do some sort of OPS and is running wonderfully, and if Larry can do it I figure I can too. :>)

Anyway, I've been led, bound and gagged, to the alter of Open Source, and I'm gonna be running our web sites on Linux come hell or high water. Any suggestions, recommendations, or condolences will be warmly welcomed here in Southern Montana. :>)

Thanks,
--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana, USA

P.S. 4,000 flying hours in the U.S. Air Force, around the world, have taught me that outside of the U.S., Europe, and Israel the best pilots in the world are Russian, and the worst are Chinese. These are my observations only, and do not reflect the views of my superiors, whoever they might be.

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 4/13/2001 6:55 PM

This was mean.
--- "Eric D. Pierce" <PierceED_at_csus.edu> wrote:
> Ever considered trying out for fighter pilot in the
> chinese air force? I think they have an opening.
>
>

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