From carmichr@hotmail.com Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:14:45 -0800 From: "Rachel Carmichael" Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:14:45 -0800 Subject: Re: why is short bread "short"? / Re: OT -- Friday Recipe was: Or Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain okay, someone remind me when I get back :) >From: "Ruth Gramolini" >Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >Subject: Re: why is short bread "short"? / Re: OT -- Friday Recipe was: Or >Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:30:23 -0800 > >Rachel, >Carrot cake is my husbands favorite. My granddaughter (aged 5) promisted >to make him one when she comes to spend time with us this summer. I would >love a good recipe. >Thanks! >Ruth >----- Original Message ----- >To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" >Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:05 PM > > > > Henry -- you are welcome :) the cheesecake is flourless as well. > > > > Okay folks,.... when I get back.. a REALLY good carrot cake? a fruit >tart? > > > > (when did I turn into Guy?) > > > > > > >From: Henry Poras > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Subject: RE: why is short bread "short"? / Re: OT -- Friday Recipe was: >Or > > >Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:45:28 -0800 > > > > > >I just took a look at amazon, and for some reason all of his books are > > >currently out of print. They are worth the effort to track down. The >best > > >of > > >the bunch are: > > >The Breads of France Recipes from all regions of France. It includes > > >everything from Bagels to bread shaped like wheat stalks, to a really >dense > > >flavorful round loaf made with eau de fleur d'orangee. It includes lots >of > > >pictures of the bakers with their creations as well as stories about >the > > >recipes. > > > > > >The New Complete Book of Breads No pictures, but an amazing variety of > > >recipes. It includes potato(e) (sorry, can't help the occasional >political > > >statement) bread, banana bread, rye, english muffins, pita, chocolate > > >rolls, > > >and even dog biscuits. Hundred's of recipes. > > > > > >The Complete Book of Pastry: Sweet and Savory Pies, Linzer Torte, > > >calzones, pizza, hamentaschen, apple strudel, and more. You have to try >the > > >Strudel. You actually make your own phyllo dough. Run around like a >maniac > > >for 10 minutes stretching the dough (longer than that and it dries >out.) > > > > > >One great thing about his stuff is it doesnt' need much adjustment. You >can > > >basically use the recipe as it is. He also includes some interesting >why's. > > > > > >By the way Rachel. Thanks for the flourless chocolate recipe. Maybe >I'll > > >try > > >it for Passover if I can ever get my cleaning done (or started). > > > > > >Henry > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 8:25 PM > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Or > > > > > > > > >rave on.... I love making bread... I imagine the person I want to hurt > > >(usually a duhveloper) is what I am beating on as I knead the dough > > > > > > >From: Henry Poras > > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > >Subject: RE: why is short bread "short"? / Re: OT -- Friday Recipe >was: > > >Or > > > >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:22:10 -0800 > > > > > > > >If I can remember back to what I read in a book by Bernard Clayton >Jr. > > >(if > > > >anyone is in to breads, pastries, ... get his books immediately. I >can > > >rave > > > >more later), pie crust can be made short or long. When making the >crust, > > > >you > > > >mix the butter and flour, often using two knives to cut up the >butter. > > >The > > > >idea is to coat small pieces of butter with flour, not to mush it > > >together. > > > >When baking the crust, there are little explosions of the butter >kernals > > > >releasing water vapor which is held in by the flour. This is what >gives > > >you > > > >a flaky crust. Larger pieces of butter (a long crust) is flakier, >more > > > >delicate, and more likely to get soggy than a short crust. I am >assuming > > > >(for no real reason than I feel like it) that short bread is similar >in > > > >this > > > >respect to short crust. > > > > > > > >I can check The Science of Food and Cooking when I get home and see >if > > > >there > > > >is anything there. > > > > > > > >Henry > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 2:57 PM > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > >Oracle Books on Audio Tapes > > > > > > > > > > > >I still like the elegant and decorous christmas holiday > > > >chocolate pastries they have in spain (catalunya) that are > > > >designed to look exactly like t*rds (feces), sometimes > > > >including exquisitely crafted little flies made from sugar > > > >crystals. > > > > > > > >Anyway, instead of sending any more "cultural enricment > > > >friday" stuff, I would instead like to ask why is short > > > >bread "short"? > > > > > > > >I can't RTFM since my old, worn out "Joy of Cooking" is at > > > >home, somewhere in a box in the garage... we just moved. > > > > > > > >thanks, > > > >ep > > > > > > > >On 29 Mar 2001, at 11:00, Ruth Gramolini wrote: > > > > > > > >... > > > > > > > > > I love shortbread. 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