Re: OT: RANT ABOUT OCP, Re: Small help

I think what Lee's objection was (I know when I read Xing's reply it got my goat), that Xing critized Lee for giving him a referance to look the answer up himself. I realize that it did not answer in full the actual question, but it asked Xing to do a little work on his own. If someone taking a course or studying to pass the OCP exams can not do a little work themselves, they are not cut out to be a DBA.

Terry

Cherie_Machler_at_gelco.com wrote:

> Dick/Lee/Joe,
>
> I'm not trying to defend him but unless I have not yet recieved
> a post in my mail, Xing never said he had an OCP. Plus, Lee,
> I think you may need to define "silver bullet". It probably doesn't
> translate for people who don't use English as a second language.
>
> Cherie Machler
> Gelco Information Network
> (really too busy this morning migrating a database to be sticking my nose
> where it doesn't belong)
>
> dgoulet_at_vicr.com_at_fatcity.com on 03/29/2001 08:00:45 AM
>
> Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>
> Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> cc:
>
> Lee & Joe,
>
> While I do agree that is possible one should try to figure these things
> out,
> and this really is a simple one, there does come a time when asking for
> help is
> appropriate. In this case Lee's answer is very much so. As far as taking
> an
> OCP course, that does torque my jaws. Over the last two years we must have
> had
> 10 people looking for a job who's only mention of Oracle on their resume is
> that
> they have their OCP certificate. Needless to say, not a one of them has
> been
> invited in for an interview. I'll ask the question that's been bugging me
> for
> some time, Xing, do you think this is some kind of "silver bullet" to
> getting a
> job?
>
> Dick Goulet
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: "Joseph S. Testa" <teci_at_oracle-dba.com>
> Date: 3/29/2001 4:05 AM
>
> Lee, i'm with you 200%,
>
> oh and for the original addressee(and others) if you can't figure out
> what the heck that simple pl/sql block is doing(or where to figure it
> out), then quit diluting the OCP worthiness, people who study just to
> take the OCP and have no experience just go to further the waste of
> paper that the certificate is printed on. :)
>
> joe
>
> lerobe - Lee Robertson wrote:
> >
> > Xing,
> >
> > Have a look at the documentation, specifically, Application Developers
> > Guide, section dealing with "Using Procedures and Packages".
> >
> > No disrespect intended but sometimes, certainly for questions such as
> this,
> > you will learn a heck of a lot more by digging around in the docs, and
> > reading (and working out) the answer for yourself. That is certainly my
> > experience. You will also fell encouraged to delve further and learn more
> > about other packages etc. Hope my pointer will help you.
> >
> > To the rest of you - I know it would have been quicker to write down the
> > answer to Xings question, but what will he have learned about the general
> > syntax ??
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Lee
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: 29 March 2001 07:05
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> > Hi DBAs and SAs,
> >
> > Can someone tell me what is this ORACLE PL/SQL Script all about,..
> > Ya... I know I have to read alot, my OCP course will start next month.
> >
> > BEGIN
> > dbms_utility.analyze_schema ( '&OWNER', 'ESTIMATE', NULL, 5 ) ;
> > END ;
> > /
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Xing
> >
>
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