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RE: DBA job market in Australia and Asia? - OFF TOPIC KIND OF

From: Boivin, Patrice J <>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:11:19 -0800
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Yes, Japanese is a language I would like to know as well.

I spend a lot of time reading Mr. Thomas Cleary's translations of oriental books, and I keep wondering how much meaning I lose by not being able to read the original.

The older characters are composites of various pictograms, so when you see a letter it has all sorts of connotations.

I suggested to my wife that we try to find Chinese or Japanese babysitters for our son, who is now 5 years old, but she kept glaring at me so finally I gave up on that idea. Our son is going to a French daycare, and I speak to him in French only while my wife speaks to him in English only, so he is learning both languages without mixing them up. It makes for interesting situations sometimes, instead of asking me for something he will just go see his mother, sometimes the opposite happens.

I thought with a nanny that speaks Chinese or Japanese he would learn a third language, a language that might open doors for him.

I got that idea from a childhood experience, when I was 5 or 6 we went to see someone in Montreal whose daughter was speaking English and French, but her nanny was Mexican so she knew Spanish as well. She was only three years old at that time.

When I was studying Oracle there was a Vietnamese woman in my class who spoke Vietnamese, French, English, plus 5 or 6 variants of Chinese. She used to work at the Hong Kong Bank of Canada. Of course she could talk to almost anyone of their clients in their own language.

All these arguments are lost on my wife.

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Jacques Kilchoer []
        Sent:   Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:21 PM
        To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
        Subject:        RE: DBA job market in Australia and Asia? - OFF
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lerobe - Lee Robertson [
<> ]

> Sent: jeudi, 15. mars 2001 00:35
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: DBA job market in Australia and Asia? - OFF TOPIC
> Erm..... has anyone out there taken the time to learn Japanese ??
I am

> looking at starting in the next couple of weeks and would
> like to hear if
> anyone has struggled and know how hard it is - I know French so

> comparisons would be great.

        I speak english and french. I took two japanese classes about 12
years ago because I was bored. So I wasn't as motivated as some other people might be.
        I thought that the pronunciation and vocabulary were fairly easy,
but reading/writing very difficult. You probably already know that japanese has two alphabets in addition to using a set of characters similar to chinese characters. I wouldn't plan on being able to read japanese unless you are willing to spend a few years on it.

        Most japanese people with which I tried to speak japanese knew english better than I knew japanese, and I ended up speaking english with them. So I didn't have a lot of opportunities to practice my japanese. On the other hand, I didn't go live in Japan.

        I did get to practice writing with a paint brush (for my own
entertainment, not part of the class curriculum.) Since I'm a poor artist my attempts at paint brush writing were pathetic.

        Jacques R. Kilchoër
        (949) 754-8816
        Quest Software, Inc.
        8001 Irvine Center Drive
        Irvine, California 92618
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