From MGogala@oxhp.com Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:47:33 -0800 From: "Gogala, Mladen" Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:47:33 -0800 Subject: RE: Oracle DBA evolution path - please share your opinion Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Did anybody explain you the path of a BDBAFH (DBA version of BOFH)? -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Thanks a lot to all who have responded ! U guys really give me inspiration and motivation to go ahead and learn things . I decided to learn everything i could about Oracle ( mainly from these lists ) and simultaniously epand my Java experience . I think it's a good path ! Thanks a lot again for your thoughts . BTW , Gaurav , what is "apps dba" ? How could i learn this ? Thanks a lot ! -----Original Message----- Behalf Of Gaurav Verma Sent: Tue, February 27, 2001 7:18 AM To: ORACLE-L@lists.sunysb.edu Andrey .. good question! > Some background : i've been around Oracle for > several years , i'm DBAing for > 2+ years now , i have written some java code (jdbc , > some XML etc) , perl , > PL/SQL , Tcl/Tk , a lot of UNIX scripting . > .Where do i go to from here ?\ Long way to go.. > > Many people say that the profession of Oracle DBA is > going to be less > demanded in future , because of : > 1) either other DB ( like less-expensive MS SQL > Server or free MySQL) will > occupy the market , especially in small enterprises > ; thats bullshit. If you are a good dba then you should know where to sell your skills. Big organisations still rely on Oracle and will. Oracle aint gonna die so fast. > 1) either other DB ( like less-expensive MS SQL > Server or free MySQL) will > occupy the market , especially in small enterprises is an wayward extrapolation and not yet a reality. We all know the limitations of Sqlserver etc. FOr enterprise use, Oracle is still the best. > 2) or Oracle will "improve" the DB management and > make it "point and click" > , so you do not need a dedicated Oracle DBA at all > or you need less Oracle > DBAs . > thats true. Oracle will always improve the interface. and it did. from SQl*dba to OEM, it has improved a lot (point and click) but still you do need human intervention a lot. Human decision is still human decision and you should know it better. DBAs are always going to be in demand. You could say.. people might need lesser.. but then what do just have to do is become one of the best. Keep updating your skills. > So , the bottom line is : what should i learn now ? > how can i extend my > expertise ? In which fields ? Hmm... guess you should try out the marketable skills. working on production databases, high-availability implementations, partitioning, datawarehousing, replication, parallel server (now replaced with (9i clusters) blah blah blah > Please share your thoughts ! > Thanks a lot in advance ! So my friend, there is a lot to learn and work upon. You could even consider becoming an apps dba rather being an plain oracle dba. It pays a lot more and you have to believe me there. 11i is HOTTTT man. just my 2 cents. cheers, Gaurav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -------- Think you know someone who can answer the above question? Forward it to them! to unsubscribe, send a blank email to oracledba-unsubscribe@LAZYDBA.com to subscribe send a blank email to oracledba-subscribe@LAZYDBA.com Visit the list archive: http://www.LAZYDBA.com/odbareadmail.pl -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: andrey INET: bronfin@visualtop.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: MGogala@oxhp.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).