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RE: RE[2]: Re-claiming the space from Table after deletion

From: Alex Hillman <ahillman_at_erols.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:49:20 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.002C9B6D.20010312084113@fatcity.com>

This is exactly what meant - this is a quote from my message - "you can increase value of PCTUSED to 100-PCTFREE-5"

Alex Hillman

> -----Original Message-----
> From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Morton,
> Ronald D
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:41 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: RE[2]: Re-claiming the space from Table after deletion
>
>
> I think, perhaps, he meant: PCTUSED = (100 - PCTFREE - 5)
>
> Ron Morton
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Raghu Kota [SMTP:raghukota_at_hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 8:50 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Re: RE[2]: Re-claiming the space from Table after deletion
> >
> > Rafi
> >
> > Never cross PCTUSED + PCTFREE = 100%(Imporatant Rule), Ideally it should
> > be
> > below 75%. PCTUSED helps How your data is inseted?? If Insert oriented
> > database, If your database is insert and Update oriendted You have to
> > strike
> > a balance between both of these parameters!!
> >
> >
> > Raghu.
> >
> >
> > >From: rafi_at_vsnl.net
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: RE[2]: Re-claiming the space from Table after deletion
> > >Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:30:20 -0800
> > >
> > >Do you mean that PCTUSED-100 & PCTFREE-5 will help utilise the
> > >next extents more efficiently.
> > >
> > >Will PCTUSED affect only future blocks or existing ones too.
> > >
> > >Also, will increasing PCTUSED affect system speed?
> > >
> > >Kind regards,
> > >Rafi
> > >
> > >ahillman_at_erols.com wrote
> > >You are right. In this case my last point of increasing PCTUSED applies
> > to
> > >hole table
> > >
> > >Alex Hillman
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Raghu
> > Kota
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 1:18 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject: RE: Re-claiming the space from Table after deleteion
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mr Alex
> > > >
> > > > You overlooked imp point that is oracle 7.3
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Alex Hillman" <ahillman_at_erols.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > >Subject: RE: Re-claiming the space from Table after deleteion
> > > > >Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 08:45:57 -0800
> > > > >
> > > > >First of all, as Joe Testa said - if you partitioned this table by
> > date
> > >-
> > > > >let say one partition per month - you can truncate partitions that
> > you
> > > > >don't
> > > > >need anymore. Second - if this option is not available -
> let say that
> >
> > >you
> > > > >need delete most but not all records from specific partition - you
> > can
> > > > >create temporary table, select into this table all records that
> > > > should not
> > > > >be deleted, truncate partition and then select into partition all
> > >records
> > > > >from temporary table. And last case - if you need to delete let
> > > > say 30-50%
> > > > >of the recors and this table does not have a lot of deletes in
> > everyday
> > > > >activity and most deletes are batch in the end of month or
> some other
> > > > >period - you can increase value of PCTUSED to 100-PCTFREE-5.
> > > > >
> > > > >Alex Hillman
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > > > rafi_at_vsnl.net
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 4:56 AM
> > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > > > Subject: Re-claiming the space from Table after deleteion
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Platform: Solaris 2.6, Oracle: 7.3.4.0
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have a few tables which are growing very fast due to large no
> > of
> > > > > > insertions. But the data gets obselete after a month
> and we use a
> > > > > > procedure to delete the obselete data from the tables.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem is that the table does not free the space even
> > > > > > after the deletion of 40% of the data.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How can we re-claim the unused space which got created due to
> > > > deletion?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do we ensure that future inserts are done in this unused
> > space?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [We can not try exp/imp or truncate option
> > > > > > due to the huge size & high activity and
> > > > > > online use of the tables].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind Regards and thanks to all there,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rafi Ahmad
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
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