Re: Am I too hard on the developper ?

From: Jim Conboy <Jim.Conboy_at_trw.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:00:29 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.002B6A63.20010216095558@fatcity.com>

Consider yourself lucky. Last week I had a doh!veloper tell me (I swear I'm not making this up) that he had to test his code in production because "the test environment got messed up and its too hard to figure out how to make it right again". He's a really junior guy and actually quite brilliant so I was gentle with him, but now I'm REALLY worried about who's example he was following.

Jim

>>> stephane_paquette_at_yahoo.com 02/16/01 12:26PM >>> Yeah but it is so much work to add 10 new fields .

The latest one is 'Do we have a tool that can compare the dev and the test environment so we know what we have to put in test ?' .

Not only it is too hard to do 10 alter tables but also it is too hard to make a list of what is changed (I'm not even talking about planning stuff).

Here, the 2/3 of IT is from one of the biggest consultant firm (Cap Gemini Ernst and Young, oups it slips out ...) so 99.9% of the 2/3 are developpers asking questions like " Can you tell me again the difference between a primary key and a foreign key".

It's 18:20 , I'm going home and I'll send a less nasty email on monday morning.

• jkstill_at_cybcon.com a écrit : >
  > Stay on it. Dropping tables to add columns in
  > development is just plain stupid.
  >
  > Jared
  >
  > On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, [iso-8859-1] paquette stephane
  > wrote:
  >
  > > Hi,
  > >
  > > I do not know if it's friday afternoon or what ?
  > > The developpers want me to regenerate the grants
  > in
  > > the development environment because they're
  > running a
  > > script that drops and recreates a new version of
  > the
  > > tables.
  > > I asked them : Could you do an alter table instead
  > ?
  > >
  > > The developpers : What ! they'are at least 10 new
  > > fields !
  > >
  > > I used to be a developper, I do not remember
  > myself
  > > dropping and recreating everything each time I add
  > a
  > > new field . Anyway in production, only the new
  > stuff
  > > goes in.
  > >
  > > Any comments ?
  > >
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  > > Stephane Paquette
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