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RE: Opinions on Performance Tuning Software

From: Mark Leith <mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:14:30 -0000
Message-Id: <10751.127413@fatcity.com>


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RE: Opinions on Performance Tuning SoftwareLOL yeah we are huh.. We also are an Oracle Reseller, though I haven't tried yet.. Just trying to work the licensing and their price lists out gives me migrane that could kill a cat at ten paces!

So I need to ask the question, why not use all of them? They are all good tools in their own respects..
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  From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Natasha Batson
  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 07:56   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L   Subject: Re: Opinions on Performance Tuning Software

  Well yeah it has to be one of the two - OEM or Savant Diagnostics.

  We're an Oracle as well as Precise/Savant (www.savant.com) distributor : )

  Thanks for the input though Mark! I guess we both a bit biased eh?

    Does it have to be one of the two? :) Take a look at the NORAD range of tools from Bradmark (Cool Tools is a distributor in the UK). The management tool that we have, DBControl, is easy to use, set up and maintain. Intuitive and all the other sales buzz words you can think of. They have just released a new version which is 8i compatible, and deals with LMTs, IOTs, Bitmapped indexes etc. They have added in partition management aswell.. Trend analysis, reorgs, blah blah blah...

    Having used DBControl against OEM, I personally feel that DBControl wins hands down, as do most people (85-90%). I can't speak about Savant Diagnostics though as I haven't had a chance to play with that one as yet. Anyone got a web address, and can you download from the web?

    If you are also looking at performance monitoring tools, we have another module called Norad Surveillance. Again, just been updated, now works on SQLServer as well as Oracle and Sybase. Also now 8i compatible (and runs on LINUX).     Read more at Bradmark's site if you wish www.bradmark.com

    Regards

    Mark

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    From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Natasha Batson

    Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 05:06     To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L     Subject: Re: Opinions on Performance Tuning Software

      Thanks for the feedback everyone!

      I have to agree with Mark with regards to hey why not use a tool that's going to save you time?

      I also agree with his suggestion of Precise SQL to be used as an SQL statement tuning tool.

      How about a DB Management tool? e.g. Oracle Enterprise Manager/Performance Pack or Savant

      Diagnostics? Which do you think is the better of the two? Anyone?

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the input though Mark! I =
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  a bit biased eh?</FONT></DIV>
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    <A href=3D"mailto:mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk" = title=3Dmark_at_cool-tools.co.uk>Mark=20

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    recipients of list ORACLE-L</A> </DIV>     <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 24, = 2001 3:24=20

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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Opinions on = Performance=20

    Tuning Software</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20     class=3D174480719-24012001>Does it have to be one of the two? :) = Take a look=20

    at the&nbsp;NORAD range of tools from Bradmark (Cool Tools is a = distributor=20

    in the UK). The management tool that we have, DBControl, is easy to = use, set=20

    up and maintain. Intuitive and all the other sales buzz words you = can think=20

    of. They have just released a new version which is 8i compatible, = and deals=20

    with LMTs, IOTs, Bitmapped indexes etc. They have added in partition =

    management aswell.. Trend analysis, reorgs, blah blah=20     blah...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20     class=3D174480719-24012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>     <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20     class=3D174480719-24012001>Having used DBControl against OEM, I = personally=20

    feel that DBControl wins hands down, as do most people (85-90%). I = can't=20

    speak about Savant Diagnostics though as I haven't had a chance to = play with=20

    that one as yet. Anyone got a web address, and can you download from = the=20

    web? </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20     class=3D174480719-24012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>     <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D174480719-24012001>If=20

    you are also looking at performance monitoring tools, we have = another module=20

    called Norad Surveillance. Again, just been updated, now works on = SQLServer=20

    as well as Oracle and Sybase. Also now 8i compatible (and runs on = LINUX).=20
    </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20     class=3D174480719-24012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>     <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20     class=3D174480719-24012001>Read more at Bradmark's site if you wish = <FONT=20

    color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D174480719-24012001><A=20

    href=3D"http://www.bradmark.com">www.bradmark.com</A>=20     </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20     class=3D174480719-24012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>     <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20     class=3D174480719-24012001>Regards</SPAN></FONT></DIV>     <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20     class=3D174480719-24012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>     <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20     class=3D174480719-24012001>Mark</SPAN></FONT></DIV>     <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20     class=3D174480719-24012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>     <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><BR></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>     <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20     class=3D174480719-24012001>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original=20     Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> root_at_fatcity.com = [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]<B>On=20

    Behalf Of </B>Natasha Batson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 24, = 2001=20

    05:06<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20

    Re: Opinions on Performance Tuning Software<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>     <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"></FONT>

      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the feedback=20
everyone!</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have to agree with Mark with =
regards to hey=20
      why not use a tool that's going to save you time?</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also agree with his suggestion =
of Precise=20
      SQL to be used as an SQL statement tuning tool.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How about a DB Management tool? =
e.g. Oracle=20
      Enterprise Manager/Performance Pack&nbsp;or Savant</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Diagnostics? Which do you think =
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