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RE: Moving SYS.AUD$ unsupported?

From: Rachel Carmichael <carmichr_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:54:29 -0000
Message-Id: <10743.126828@fatcity.com>


well, the first response I got was "gee, I thought it was still like that<allowing the move>, let me do some digging"

when/if I get any more info, I'll post it to the list.

>From: "Steve Orr" <sorr_at_arzoo.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: Moving SYS.AUD$ unsupported?
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:15:50 -0800
>
>Hi Rachel,
>
>Just waking up on the left coast to find all the warming discussion on my
>SYS.AUD$ table topic...
>
>I'm with you in thinking that this is a recent change. I'd be interested in
>what you find out from Support.
>
>Speaking of warming... yawn... need more coffee!
>
>Luvya,
>Steve
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Carmichael
>Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:31 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>this then is new with 8i.... I am going to see if I can verify it with
>Support.....
>
>
> >From: "Trassens, Christian" <CTrassens_at_uni2.es>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: RE: Moving SYS.AUD$ unsupported?
> >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 02:45:56 -0800
> >
> >Rachel and Steve,
> >
> >Wondering about your insistence, I extracted this of metalink ( note
> >72460.1) :
> >
> >"Overview
> >This script has been tested with Oracle8i, Release 8.1.5 and should work
> >withall Oracle8 releases. It is NOT supported because the following are
>NOT
> >supported :
> >- Moving the SYS.AUD$ table out of the SYSTEM tablespace
> >- Moving the SYS.AUD$ table out of the SYS schema
> >- Adding triggers to the AUD$ table.
> >The reason the above are not supported is because the Oracle Code makes
> >implicit assumptions about the data dictionary tables such as SYS.AUD$,
> >which could cause problems with upgrades and backup/recovery
> >scenarios...................."
> >
> >Regards.
> >
> >
> > > -----Mensaje original-----
> > > De: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:carmichr_at_hotmail.com]
> > > Enviado el: martes 16 de enero de 2001 11:11
> > > Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Asunto: RE: Moving SYS.AUD$ unsupported?
> > >
> > > in prior releases of Oracle, Support recommended that AUD$ be moved
>out
> >of
> > >
> > > the system tablespace. It was the ONLY table they sanctioned moving.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Trassens, Christian" <CTrassens_at_uni2.es>
> > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > >Subject: RE: Moving SYS.AUD$ unsupported?
> > > >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:25:53 -0800
> > > >
> > > >Steve,
> > > >
> > > >You should never move any table of the dictionary in any release. And
> > > that
> > > >includes sys.aud$. However and maybe you are confused with those
> > > procedures
> > > >or scripts that keeps the data of sys.aud$ off the system tbsp.
> > > >
> > > >Regards.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Mensaje original-----
> > > > > De: Steve Orr [SMTP:sorr_at_arzoo.com]
> > > > > Enviado el: martes 16 de enero de 2001 3:05
> > > > > Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > > Asunto: Moving SYS.AUD$ unsupported?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm getting ready to set up some auditing and in the past I've
> > > routinely
> > > > > moved the SYS.AUD$ out of the system tablespace thinking it was
>the
> > > only
> > > > > data dictionary table move supported by Oracle. But I just
>stumbled
> >on
> > >
> > > >the
> > > > > following in the 8.1.6 Admin manual:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Note: Moving the SYS.AUD$ table out of the SYSTEM tablespace
> > > > > is not supported because the Oracle code makes implicit
> > > > > assumptions about the data dictionary tables such as SYS.AUD$,
> > > > > which could cause problems with upgrades and backup/recovery
> > > > > scenarios."
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this a documentation change reflecting a new Oracle policy?
>Does
> > > >anyone
> > > > > know why Oracle made this change? What would be the ramifications
>of
> > > > > moving
> > > > > the table?
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve Orr
>
>--
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>--
>Author: Steve Orr
> INET: sorr_at_arzoo.com
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