How can you get a "tone" from an email? Losing battle Alex. Give it up.
- Alex Hillman <alex_hillman_at_physia.com> wrote:
> I do not object to mentioning of the delete key but I do not like and
> will
> not tolerate the tone. I do not see Rachel as a such moral authority
> figure
> for me to accept such tone (Maybe she is but I barely know her - I saw
> her
> one time on IOUG conference and saw couple of her books). If instead of
> "I
> remind you, the delete key is located on your keyboard and labelled as
> such"
> she said something like "If you don't like the message use the delete
> key" I
> wouldn't even reply.
>
> Alex Hillman
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:41 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>
> I must say that I totally agree with Rachel. As a female, I found that
> the
> email Alex send out to be very offensive. And I definitely don't
> appreciate
> such comments on the list.
>
> Every body entitled to speak whatever they want, subject to not
> physically
> or emotionally harming the other person.
>
> Like what Rachel said, DELETE keys are always there for you for one
> purpose: to delete whatever you don't want to read!
>
> Winnie
>
>
>
>
>
> "Deshpande, Kirti" <kirti.deshpande_at_verizon.com>@fatcity.com on
> 01/03/2001
> 07:50:50 PM
>
> Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>
> Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
>
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> cc:
>
>
>
> Current Score:
> Rachel : 14
> Alex : 6
> End of 1st Period !! This is getting very interesting at FatcityBowl...
>
> Can we..can we just get along...
> - Rodney King
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:carmichr_at_hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:51 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: general doubt
> >
> > From www.dictionary.com:
> >
> > insinuation: Something insinuated, especially an artfully indirect,
> often
> > derogatory suggestion.
> >
> > insinuate: To introduce or insert (oneself) by subtle and artful
> means.
> >
> > Based on those definitions, I didn't insinuate anything. I was neither
> > subtle nor indirect in calling you sexist.
> >
> > sexism: Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping
> of
> > social roles based on gender.
> >
> > Telling me that I am not your mother or wife is promoting
> stereotyping,
> > since those are gender-based roles.
> >
> > I told you to use the delete key and not to insult me... no
> insinuation
> > there. You might consider checking a dictionary before you use words
> when
> > you are not sure of the definitions.
> >
> > Consider yourself permanently blocked -- and a complaint about your
> > behavior
> > has been lodged with the list owner.
> >
> >
> > >From: Alex Hillman <alex_hillman_at_physia.com>
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: RE: general doubt
> > >Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:30:32 -0800
> > >
> > >Maybe it is enough. What is your next insinuation? Sexist - it is
> > >hilarious.
> > >You should have better arguments than that. And also you can delete
> my
> > >messages - if you use MS Outlook you can even have a rule to delete
> them
> > >immediately.
> > >
> > >Alex Hillman
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:46 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >Yes you are entitled to your view -- but when you add to the messages
> on
> > a
> > >topic then you add to the trash if you consider the topic itself to
> be
> > >trash.
> > >
> > >As for not being your wife or mother -- no, thank goodness, I'm not
> in
> > any
> > >way or form related to you. And I find it insulting that you would
> say
> > that
> > >to me, since you would NOT say "you are not my father" to any man on
> this
> > >list. I find that a sexist remark and definitely "trashing" this
> list.
> > >
> > >As for being or not being a school teacher... whether or not I was is
> > >irrelevant... but I consider THAT a compliment (although I can infer
> that
> > >you don't think it is). School teachers educate... and I think that
> > >eradicating ignorance is a noble task.
> > >
> > > >From: Alex Hillman <alex_hillman_at_physia.com>
> > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > >Subject: RE: general doubt
> > > >Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:10:42 -0800
> > > >
> > > >I think that as anybody else I am entitled to my point of view and
> can
> > > >express it. This is definitely trashing and every day it becomes
> worse.
> >
> > >In
> > > >trashing I mean to diminish the value of this list. Also there were
> no
> > > >indications in the subject showing me that I should delete the
> message.
> > > >Also
> > > >I do not appreciate this "I remind you, the delete key is located
> on
> > your
> > > >keyboard and labelled as such". You are not my mother or wife or
> school
> > > >teacher (or maybe you are a school teacher - in former life?).
> > > >
> > > >Alex Hillman
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 2:26 PM
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Alex,
> > > >
> > > >"trashing this list"? A bit harsh and definitely inaccurate.
> > > >
> > > >I remind you, the delete key is located on your keyboard and
> labelled
> > as
> > > >such. I suggest you use it instead of, to quote your own message,
> > >"trashing
> > > >this list".
> > > >
> > > >Rachel
> >
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