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RE: general doubt

From: Alex Hillman <alex_hillman_at_physia.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:33:43 -0500
Message-Id: <10730.125670@fatcity.com>


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 How did you calculate the score?

Alex Hillman

-----Original Message-----
From: Deshpande, Kirti
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 1/3/01 10:50 PM
Subject: RE: general doubt

Current Score:
 Rachel : 14
 Alex : 6
End of 1st Period !! This is getting very interesting at FatcityBowl...

Can we..can we just get along...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:carmichr_at_hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:51 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: general doubt
>
> From www.dictionary.com:
>
> insinuation: Something insinuated, especially an artfully indirect,
often
> derogatory suggestion.
>
> insinuate: To introduce or insert (oneself) by subtle and artful
means.
>
> Based on those definitions, I didn't insinuate anything. I was neither

> subtle nor indirect in calling you sexist.
>
> sexism: Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping
of
> social roles based on gender.
>
> Telling me that I am not your mother or wife is promoting
stereotyping,
> since those are gender-based roles.
>
> I told you to use the delete key and not to insult me... no
insinuation
> there. You might consider checking a dictionary before you use words
when
> you are not sure of the definitions.
>
> Consider yourself permanently blocked -- and a complaint about your
> behavior
> has been lodged with the list owner.
>
>
> >From: Alex Hillman <alex_hillman_at_physia.com>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: RE: general doubt
> >Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:30:32 -0800
> >
> >Maybe it is enough. What is your next insinuation? Sexist - it is
> >hilarious.
> >You should have better arguments than that. And also you can delete
my
> >messages - if you use MS Outlook you can even have a rule to delete
them
> >immediately.
> >
> >Alex Hillman
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:46 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >Yes you are entitled to your view -- but when you add to the messages
on
> a
> >topic then you add to the trash if you consider the topic itself to
be
> >trash.
> >
> >As for not being your wife or mother -- no, thank goodness, I'm not
in
> any
> >way or form related to you. And I find it insulting that you would
say
> that
> >to me, since you would NOT say "you are not my father" to any man on
this
> >list. I find that a sexist remark and definitely "trashing" this
list.
> >
> >As for being or not being a school teacher... whether or not I was is
> >irrelevant... but I consider THAT a compliment (although I can infer
that
> >you don't think it is). School teachers educate... and I think that
> >eradicating ignorance is a noble task.
> >
> > >From: Alex Hillman <alex_hillman_at_physia.com>
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: RE: general doubt
> > >Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:10:42 -0800
> > >
> > >I think that as anybody else I am entitled to my point of view and
can
> > >express it. This is definitely trashing and every day it becomes
worse.
>
> >In
> > >trashing I mean to diminish the value of this list. Also there were
no
> > >indications in the subject showing me that I should delete the
message.
> > >Also
> > >I do not appreciate this "I remind you, the delete key is located
on
> your
> > >keyboard and labelled as such". You are not my mother or wife or
school
> > >teacher (or maybe you are a school teacher - in former life?).
> > >
> > >Alex Hillman
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 2:26 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >Alex,
> > >
> > >"trashing this list"? A bit harsh and definitely inaccurate.
> > >
> > >I remind you, the delete key is located on your keyboard and
labelled
> as
> > >such. I suggest you use it instead of, to quote your own message,
> >"trashing
> > >this list".
> > >
> > >Rachel
>

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp;How did you calculate the score?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Alex Hillman</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Deshpande, Kirti</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: 1/3/01 10:50 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: general doubt</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Current Score:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp;Rachel : 14 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp;Alex : 6</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>End of 1st Period !! This is getting very interesting at FatcityBowl... </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Can we..can we just get along... </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp;- Rodney King</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:carmichr_at_hotmail.com]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:51 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; To:&nbsp;&nbsp; Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RE: general doubt</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; From www.dictionary.com:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; insinuation: Something insinuated, especially an artfully indirect,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>often </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; derogatory suggestion.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; insinuate: To introduce or insert (oneself) by subtle and artful</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>means.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Based on those definitions, I didn't insinuate anything. I was neither</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; subtle nor indirect in calling you sexist.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; sexism:&nbsp; Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; social roles based on gender.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Telling me that I am not your mother or wife is promoting</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>stereotyping, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; since those are gender-based roles.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; I told you to use the delete key and not to insult me... no</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>insinuation </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; there. You might consider checking a dictionary before you use words</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>when </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; you are not sure of the definitions.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Consider yourself permanently blocked -- and a complaint about your</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; behavior </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; has been lodged with the list owner.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;From: Alex Hillman &lt;alex_hillman_at_physia.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L &lt;ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;Subject: RE: general doubt</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:30:32 -0800</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;Maybe it is enough. What is your next insinuation? Sexist - it is </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;hilarious.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;You should have better arguments than that. And also you can delete</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>my</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;messages - if you use MS Outlook you can even have a rule to delete</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>them</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;immediately.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;Alex Hillman</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:46 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;Yes you are entitled to your view -- but when you add to the messages</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;topic then you add to the trash if you consider the topic itself to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;trash.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;As for not being your wife or mother -- no, thank goodness, I'm not</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; any</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;way or form related to you. And I find it insulting that you would</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>say</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;to me, since you would NOT say &quot;you are not my father&quot; to any man on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;list. I find that a sexist remark and definitely &quot;trashing&quot; this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>list.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;As for being or not being a school teacher... whether or not I was is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;irrelevant... but I consider THAT a compliment (although I can infer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;you don't think it is). School teachers educate... and I think that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;eradicating ignorance is a noble task.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;From: Alex Hillman &lt;alex_hillman_at_physia.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L &lt;ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Subject: RE: general doubt</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:10:42 -0800</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;I think that as anybody else I am entitled to my point of view and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>can</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;express it. This is definitely trashing and every day it becomes</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>worse.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;In</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;trashing I mean to diminish the value of this list. Also there were</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>no</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;indications in the subject showing me that I should delete the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>message.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Also</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;I do not appreciate this &quot;I remind you, the delete key is located</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; your</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;keyboard and labelled as such&quot;. You are not my mother or wife or</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>school</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;teacher (or maybe you are a school teacher - in former life?).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Alex Hillman</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 2:26 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Alex,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;&quot;trashing this list&quot;?&nbsp; A bit harsh and definitely inaccurate.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;I remind you, the delete key is located on your keyboard and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>labelled</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; as</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;such. I suggest you use it instead of, to quote your own message, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;&quot;trashing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;this list&quot;.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;Rachel</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Author: Deshpande, Kirti</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp; INET: kirti.deshpande_at_verizon.com</FONT>
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