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I'm using Lagato. Very expensive but worth it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Maurer [mailto:emaurer_at_acquirex.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:50 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Opinion: RMAN vs Veritas
AFAIK
Veritas has two products for Oracle; an agent that
links rman with Netbackup and their 'Database
edition for Oracle' that'e bundled with Veritas QIO, VXFS
and Volume Manager as well as Veritas own 'BLI'
(block level incremental) solution that uses the
VXFS snapshot capability with Netbackup. I've got the 'Database
Edition' but have not implemented Veritas BLI solution
as it hasn't been necessary yet - we're skating by
on shell scripts as DB's aren't big enough to
require incremental solutions. IMHO, NO Veritas
products are 'easy' to implement, and their licensing
policies (Three days to get a 'key'!) are restrictive
at best, impossible in emergencies. Look into BMC SQL
Back-Track and Legato for an 'easier' path than either
rman OR Veritas.
HTH
Ed Maurer
Sr. DBA
Acquirex
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rama Malladi [mailto:rmalladi_at_inteliant.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:51 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Opinion: RMAN vs Veritas
>
>
> Jon,
> We use RMAN for doing the backups in Oracle (like full
> backup, incremental
> backup etc...) and use Veritas for file systems and volume
> management at the
> O/S level.
>
> As you said RMAN is built into Oracle and Veritas is an add-on at the
> system level. You could use Netbackup of Veritas for doing
> the backups, but
> I do not have first-hand experience about this product. May
> be somebody else
> could fill the gaps ...
>
> Rama
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:36 PM
> To: oracledba
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone out there had a quick opinion on
> which is best
> to use besides the fact that rman is already built in/paid for.
>
> I have no experience with either, but need to determine all factors
> before proceeding. Just looking for ease of use (or not) and such.
>
> Does rman still have a role when using Veritas software?
>
>
>
> --
> Jon Baker <jcb_at_netsec.net>
>
> Network Security Technologies, Inc. - Database Engineer (1/5)
> www.netsec.net 703-561-0420 Herndon, VA
>
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-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ed Maurer INET: emaurer_at_acquirex.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). ------_=_NextPart_001_01C07526.4C20F810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2651.75"> <TITLE>RE: Opinion: RMAN vs Veritas</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=2>I'm using Lagato. Very expensive but worth it.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Ed Maurer [<A HREF="mailto:emaurer_at_acquirex.com">mailto:emaurer_at_acquirex.com</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:50 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: Opinion: RMAN vs Veritas</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>AFAIK</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Veritas has two products for Oracle; an agent that</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>links rman with Netbackup and their 'Database</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>edition for Oracle' that'e bundled with Veritas QIO, VXFS</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>and Volume Manager as well as Veritas own 'BLI' </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>(block level incremental) solution that uses the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>VXFS snapshot capability with Netbackup. I've got the 'Database </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Edition' but have not implemented Veritas BLI solution</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>as it hasn't been necessary yet - we're skating by</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>on shell scripts as DB's aren't big enough to</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>require incremental solutions. IMHO, NO Veritas</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>products are 'easy' to implement, and their licensing</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>policies (Three days to get a 'key'!) are restrictive</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>at best, impossible in emergencies. Look into BMC SQL</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Back-Track and Legato for an 'easier' path than either</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>rman OR Veritas. </FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>HTH</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Ed Maurer</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sr. DBA</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Acquirex</FONT> </P> <BR> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2> </FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Rama Malladi [<A HREF="mailto:rmalladi_at_inteliant.com">mailto:rmalladi_at_inteliant.com</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:51 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: Opinion: RMAN vs Veritas</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Jon,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> We use RMAN for doing the backups in Oracle (like full </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> backup, incremental</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> backup etc...) and use Veritas for file systems and volume </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> management at the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> O/S level.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> As you said RMAN is built into Oracle and Veritas is an add-on at the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> system level. You could use Netbackup of Veritas for doing </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> the backups, but</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I do not have first-hand experience about this product. May </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> be somebody else</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> could fill the gaps ...</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Rama</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:36 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: oracledba</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I was wondering if anyone out there had a quick opinion on </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> which is best</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to use besides the fact that rman is already built in/paid for.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I have no experience with either, but need to determine all factors</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> before proceeding. Just looking for ease of use (or not) and such.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Does rman still have a role when using Veritas software?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Jon Baker <jcb_at_netsec.net></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Network Security Technologies, Inc. - Database Engineer (1/5)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> www.netsec.net 703-561-0420 Herndon, VA</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> --------</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Think you know someone who can answer the above question? </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Forward it to</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> them!</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to unsubscribe, send a blank email to </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> oracledba-unsubscribe_at_LAZYDBA.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to subscribe send a blank email to oracledba-subscribe_at_LAZYDBA.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Visit the list archive: http://www.LAZYDBA.com/odbareadmail.pl</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -- </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -- </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Author: Rama Malladi</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> INET: rmalladi_at_inteliant.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> --------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>-- </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>-- </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Author: Ed Maurer</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2> INET: emaurer_at_acquirex.com</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>--------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L</FONT>Received on Tue Jan 02 2001 - 19:41:31 CST
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