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RE: SOS Alert

From: Mohan, Ross <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:37:52 -0500
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Interesting question! My stab in the dark, shot from the hip, wild-ass guess is as follows:

Since modern OSes can cache code segments via shared libraries, there is a *very high* read to write ratio (i.e. it is read once from disk into OS cache, and re-used from there by many folks ) and so the "read from disk" is not a significant performance issue.

Where disk config *would* become significant would be in case of failure: What is faster? Recover by backup? Software re-install? And, what is more likely to fail? Software striped across ten disks _without_ a mirror is more likely to become unavailable than software located on one disk, just because of the inverse additive effect of individual disk MTBFs in a stripe set. So, if you must stripe app binaries, mirror them.

There are other comments about code re-use in the OS, but if i start on those, this won't be a "shot from the hip" anymore.

Maybe Eric Pierce can Google us up some pithy and provocative URLs to keep us thinking on this topic!

hth

Ross

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From: VIVEK_SHARMA [mailto:VIVEK_SHARMA_at_infy.com] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 12:21 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: SOS Alert

A related Basic Qs.

Can the Application Software ( Banking Application of pro*c Executables in this Case) be put on Striped Disks belonging to the APP Server ?

Does it Have any Certain Negative performance impacts ? OR is Performance the Same whether the Application Lies on Striped Disks or NON-Striped Disks ?

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Interesting question! My stab in the dark, shot from the hip, wild-ass guess is as follows:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Since modern OSes can cache code segments via shared </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>libraries, there is a *very high* read to write ratio (i.e. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>it is read once from disk into OS cache, and re-used from </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>there by many folks ) and so the &quot;read from disk&quot; is not a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>significant performance issue.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Where disk config *would* become significant would be in case </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>of failure: What is faster? Recover by backup? Software </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>re-install? And, what is more likely to fail?&nbsp; Software </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>striped across ten disks _without_ a mirror is more likely to </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>become unavailable than software located on one disk, just </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>because of the inverse additive effect of individual disk </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>MTBFs in a stripe set.&nbsp; So, if you must stripe app binaries, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>mirror them. </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>There are other comments about code re-use in the OS, but </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>if i start on those, this won't be a &quot;shot from the hip&quot; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>anymore. </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Maybe Eric Pierce can Google us up some pithy and provocative </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>URLs to keep us thinking on this topic!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>hth</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Ross</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: VIVEK_SHARMA [<A HREF="mailto:VIVEK_SHARMA_at_infy.com">mailto:VIVEK_SHARMA_at_infy.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 12:21 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: SOS Alert </FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>A related Basic Qs.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Can the Application Software (&nbsp; Banking Application of pro*c Executables&nbsp; in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>this Case) be put on Striped Disks belonging to the APP Server ? </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Does it Have any Certain Negative performance impacts ?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>OR is Performance the Same whether the&nbsp; Application Lies on Striped Disks or</FONT>
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