I have to agree with Stephane - the underlying tables need to be =
designed well. We have been using PowerPlay for 2 years and are quite =
happy with it. The learning curve was much smaller then other products, =
such as Oracle Express. I had a cube built within hours after receiving =
the software. When I opened the Oracle Express boxes, it took me hours to =
figure out where to start.
There are times when sql and views won't quite cut it. We have a =
database with around 220 million telephone call records in it. We have =
built a cube based on these call records with 6 dimensions (date, =
day-of-week, call code, hour of day, carrier, answer status, operator =
status). The two measure are total calls and conversation minutes. This =
cube is only 7M in size! Users can slice-and-dice the numbers and do =
trend analysis in seconds, versus the hours it would take to run various =
queries against the database.
As was stated previously, you need to know your business requirements.=20=
Jay Hostetter
Oracle DBA
D. & E. Communications
Ephrata, PA USA
>>> paquette stephane <stephane_paquette_at_yahoo.com> 12/15/00 03:07AM >>>
On a previous DW project, we have use Powerplay and
Impromptu. IT and the users were quite happy.=20
It is easier if you are pulling the data from a well
designed dimension and fact tables database.=20
Do not let the users having cubes with 15 dimensions,
it will never worked.
- Hannah.M.Doran_at_sb.com a =E9crit : >=20
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> It IS costly! And if your are not running marketing
> numbers, then not very
> intuitive either! We hired a consultant to build a
> cube for us a long time ago
> (after a year ago) . Months after he has been far
> gone, we found issues with
> the setup. The underlying queries are pulling up
> multiple records in the total
> counts.....ahhhh.... so much for user testing and
> unfortunately I was NOT
> involved in that phase of the project.
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> I was basically trying to redefine a dimension with
> a new query, but the whole
> cube went berserk.
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> I am recommending that we review the users
> requirements and bring in another
> consultant. The thing that REALLY irks me is that
> the end reports that the
> users want are something that I could have done with
> sql and views! However,
> they felt that they wanted to be able to slice and
> dice the data (drill downs
> etc), but unfortunately the product is so complex
> that the users are unable to
> do it themselves.
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> Then when I got called in, I see that the data cube
> is wrong anyway! The users
> have spent SO much money thus far that they wont
> allow me to re-write the
> reports using sql. Sooooo, they will spend much
> more money now bringing in a
> consultant to make their prize software work!
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> Ok. Enough rant. Going for a little walk, take a
> little break, then will come
> back and throw my computer out of the window!
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>
DILBERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> Satar Naghshineh
> <Satar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com> on
> 12/14/2000
> 12:00:25 PM
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hannah.M.Doran_at_sb.com=20
> [SMTP:Hannah.M.Doran_at_sb.com]=20
> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:09 PM
> > To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com;
> oracledba_at_quickdoc.co.uk=20
> > Subject: Cognos Expertise? Urgent
> >
> >
> >
> I just met with them. costly product. What
> exactly do u want to
> know?
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> Regards,
> Satar
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> > Hello again list,
> >
> > Anyone out there familar with the
> 3-dimensional data reporting tool
> > called
> > Cognos? Can anyone direct me to a list of site or
> consultant who might
> > specialize in the area?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Hannah
> >
> >
> >
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Anyone out there familar with the 3-dimensional data
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