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RE: Cognos Expertise? Urgent

From: Satar Naghshineh <Satar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:32:17 -0800
Message-Id: <10710.124611@fatcity.com>


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I have to agree with you. You can create these reports on your own. But management, like small children, like colors and graphs. I wonder if they know they can get the same "drill down" and graphs using Excel.

Regards,
Satar

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hannah.M.Doran_at_sb.com [SMTP:Hannah.M.Doran_at_sb.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 6:27 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Cognos Expertise? Urgent
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>
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> It IS costly! And if your are not running marketing numbers, then not
> very
> intuitive either! We hired a consultant to build a cube for us a long
> time ago
> (after a year ago) . Months after he has been far gone, we found issues
> with
> the setup. The underlying queries are pulling up multiple records in the
> total
> counts.....ahhhh.... so much for user testing and unfortunately I was NOT
> involved in that phase of the project.
>
> I was basically trying to redefine a dimension with a new query, but the
> whole
> cube went berserk.
>
> I am recommending that we review the users requirements and bring in
> another
> consultant. The thing that REALLY irks me is that the end reports that
> the
> users want are something that I could have done with sql and views!
> However,
> they felt that they wanted to be able to slice and dice the data (drill
> downs
> etc), but unfortunately the product is so complex that the users are
> unable to
> do it themselves.
>
> Then when I got called in, I see that the data cube is wrong anyway! The
> users
> have spent SO much money thus far that they wont allow me to re-write the
> reports using sql. Sooooo, they will spend much more money now bringing
> in a
> consultant to make their prize software work!
>
> Ok. Enough rant. Going for a little walk, take a little break, then will
> come
> back and throw my computer out of the window!
>
> DILBERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I have to agree with = you. You can create these reports on your own. But management, like = small children, like colors and graphs. I wonder if they know they can = get the same &quot;drill down&quot; and graphs using Excel. </FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Regards,</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Satar</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">It IS costly!&nbsp; And if your are = not running marketing numbers, then not very</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">intuitive either!&nbsp; We hired a = consultant to build a cube for us a long time ago</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">(after a year ago) .&nbsp; Months = after he has been far gone, we found issues with</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">the setup.&nbsp; The underlying = queries are pulling up multiple records in the total</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">counts.....ahhhh.... so much for user = testing and unfortunately I was NOT</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">involved in that phase of the = project.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I was basically trying to redefine a = dimension with a new query, but the whole</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">cube went berserk.</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I am recommending that we review the = users requirements and bring in another</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">consultant.&nbsp; The thing that = REALLY irks me is that the end reports that the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">users want are something that I could = have done with sql and views!&nbsp; However,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">they felt that they wanted to be able = to slice and dice the data (drill downs</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">etc), but unfortunately the product = is so complex that the users are unable to</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">do it themselves.</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Then when I got called in, I see that = the data cube is wrong anyway!&nbsp; The users</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">have spent SO much money thus far = that they wont allow me to re-write the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">reports using sql.&nbsp; Sooooo, they = will spend much more money now bringing in a</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">consultant to make their prize = software work!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ok.&nbsp; Enough rant.&nbsp; Going for = a little walk, take a little break, then will come</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">back and throw my computer out of the = window!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 =

FACE=3D"Arial">DILBERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
Received on Thu Dec 14 2000 - 13:32:17 CST

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