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Your opinion please...RBS

From: Koivu, Lisa <lkoivu_at_qode.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:07:41 -0500
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Good morning -

I'm reading through some doco about rollback segments and refreshing my memory. I remember a list discussion in the past about 'what is the point of optimal' with rbs's. The book I am reading (Oracle8i DBA Handbook, Oracle Press) states that shrinking to optimal, and extending a rollback segment, are both costly.

Seems to me if you don't have the luxury of a very large tablespace then utilizing optimal is your only way to get rbs's to share disk nicely.

However, if extending and shrinking is that costly, and you have a ton of disk at your disposal, I wonder about making my rbs's fairly large. Optimal right now is 40M (seems large to me). Our main app is more of a hybrid system, so I see wild numbers in v$rollstat - HWM's from 40M to 300M+. Has anyone just created really large rollback segments based on these types of weird sizes?

I also see waits in v$rollstat, and undo waits in v$waitstat. I just bumped up the number of rbs's to 26 based upon a recent HWM of 101 concurrent sessions. My waits are still growing!! Is it totally wild of me to think about adding even more rbs's?? I have more disk than I could ever realistically use in my rbs ts (10G). I am thinking about just doubling the number of rbs's because 1. I don't want to see ANY rbs waits in v$rollstat, v$waitstat and 2. because I've got the disk.

Am I out in left field? Any comments, suggestions, swift KITA's are appreciated. Gracias

Lisa Rutland Koivu
*O*penly *C*ynical & *P*essimistic
Qode.com
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Good morning - </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I'm reading through some doco about =
rollback segments and refreshing my memory. I remember a list = discussion in the past about 'what is the point of optimal' with = rbs's.&nbsp; The book I am reading (Oracle8i DBA Handbook, Oracle = Press) states that shrinking to optimal, and extending a rollback = segment, are both costly.&nbsp; </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Seems to me if you don't have the =
luxury of a very large tablespace then utilizing optimal is your only = way to get rbs's to share disk nicely. </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">However, if extending and shrinking is =
that costly, and you have a ton of disk at your disposal, I wonder = about making my rbs's fairly large.&nbsp; Optimal right now is 40M = (seems large to me).&nbsp; Our main app is more of a hybrid system, so = I see wild numbers in v$rollstat - HWM's from 40M to 300M+.&nbsp; Has = anyone just created really large rollback segments based on these types = of weird sizes?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I also see waits in v$rollstat, and =
undo waits in v$waitstat.&nbsp; I just bumped up the number of rbs's to = 26 based upon a recent HWM of 101 concurrent sessions.&nbsp; My waits = are still growing!!&nbsp; Is it totally wild of me to think about = adding even more rbs's??&nbsp; I have more disk than I could ever = realistically use in my rbs ts (10G). I am thinking about just doubling = the number of rbs's because 1. I don't want to see ANY rbs waits in = v$rollstat, v$waitstat and 2. because I've got the disk. </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Am I out in left field?&nbsp; Any =
comments, suggestions, swift KITA's are appreciated.&nbsp; = Gracias</FONT>
</P>

<P><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Lisa Rutland Koivu</FONT></B>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">*O*penly *C*ynical &amp;&nbsp; =
*P*essimistic</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Qode.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">4850 North State Road 7</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Suite G104</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Fort Lauderdale, FL&nbsp; =
33319</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">V: 954.484.3191, x174</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">F: 954.484.2933 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">C: 954.658.5849</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial"><A HREF=3D"http://www.qode.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.qode.com</A></FONT>
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<P><I><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">&quot;The =
information contained herein does not express the opinion or position = of Qode.com and cannot be attributed to or made binding upon = Received on Tue Dec 12 2000 - 08:07:41 CST

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