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RE: Where is DBA position in your organization?

From: Mohan, Ross <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:01:29 -0500
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Wow, and you said all you gave up to live in Montana was the salary.

The plot thickens......

-----Original Message-----
From: Weaver, Walt [mailto:wweaver_at_rightnow.com] Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 8:55 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Where is DBA position in your organization?

Lucky boy. We would love to report to IS. Unfortunately, we report to the Vice President of Customer Services.

Scenario (happens every day, really!):

Phone rings: "Hello, this is Walt".

"Hey, Walt, this is Jethro". (name changed to protect the guilty).

"Hey, Jethro, what's up?".

"Well, we just got an irate call from the White House. They say their web
site is slow. I called development and they say their code is optimized to the nth degree and it must be a problem on the SA/Oracle side".

"Well, Jethro, I take issue with that. We just tkprof'd the hell out of the
whole app, and it's currently redefining the meaning of 'cartesion join'. Not a whole lot we can do on our end".

"Walt, I don't care what you think. Users are pissed off and the whole
Development Department are up in the Beartooths hunting this weekend. Fix it or start driving school buses".

"Can't, Jethro. I'm hunting this weekend too."

"Bullshit, Walt. My 11-year-old daughter told me that your
11-year-old-daughter said that you're flying her to Helena to visit some friends. No excuse. Fix, it, or Monday morning you'll be driving the school bus that picks up my daughter, Jermaine".

Phone goes dead. I spend the rest of my day cursing middle management.

But, I'm getting DAMN good at tuning SQL statements. :>)

And, sometimes living in a small town ain't all that great. :>)

--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana, USA

-----Original Message-----
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 11/25/2000 7:50 AM

In our group we are the SA's. We have a small shop and the DBA's/SA's report to the Director of IS Operations. We also support the development
teams and do some design work. Our primary responsibility is to keep the
production systems up, available, and tuned. So, when conflicts between prod vs dev come up the production is primary.

Rodd Holman
Enterprise Data Systems Engineer
LodgeNet Entertainment Corporation
rodney.holman_at_lodgenet.com
Comments made are my own opinions and views. They do not represent views,
policies, or procedures of LodgeNet Entertainment Corporation

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Wow, and you said all you gave up to live in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Montana was the salary. </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>The plot thickens......</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Weaver, Walt [<A HREF="mailto:wweaver_at_rightnow.com">mailto:wweaver_at_rightnow.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 8:55 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: Where is DBA position in your organization?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Lucky boy. We would love to report to IS. Unfortunately, we report to the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Vice President of Customer Services. </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Scenario (happens every day, really!):</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Phone rings: &quot;Hello, this is Walt&quot;. </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&quot;Hey, Walt, this is Jethro&quot;. (name changed to protect the guilty). </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&quot;Hey, Jethro, what's up?&quot;. </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&quot;Well, we just got an irate call from the White House. They say their web</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>site is slow. I called development and they say their code is optimized to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the nth degree and it must be a problem on the SA/Oracle side&quot;.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&quot;Well, Jethro, I take issue with that. We just tkprof'd the hell out of the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>whole app, and it's currently redefining the meaning of 'cartesion join'.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Not a whole lot we can do on our end&quot;. </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&quot;Walt, I don't care what you think. Users are pissed off and the whole</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Development Department are up in the Beartooths hunting this weekend. Fix it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>or start driving school buses&quot;.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&quot;Can't, Jethro. I'm hunting this weekend too.&quot;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&quot;Bullshit, Walt. My 11-year-old daughter told me that your</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>11-year-old-daughter said that you're flying her to Helena to visit some</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>friends. No excuse. Fix, it, or Monday morning you'll be driving the school</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>bus that picks up my daughter, Jermaine&quot;.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Phone goes dead. I spend the rest of my day cursing middle management.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>But, I'm getting DAMN good at tuning SQL statements.&nbsp; :&gt;)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>And, sometimes living in a small town ain't all that great.&nbsp; :&gt;)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>--Walt Weaver</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp; Bozeman, Montana, USA</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: 11/25/2000 7:50 AM</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>In our group we are the SA's.&nbsp; We have a small shop and the DBA's/SA's</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>report to the Director of IS Operations.&nbsp; We also support the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>development</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>teams and do some design work.&nbsp; Our primary responsibility is to keep</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>production systems up, available, and tuned.&nbsp; So, when conflicts between</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>prod vs dev come up the production is primary.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Rodd Holman</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Enterprise Data Systems Engineer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>LodgeNet Entertainment Corporation</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>rodney.holman_at_lodgenet.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Comments made are my own opinions and views. They do not represent</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>views,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>policies, or procedures of LodgeNet Entertainment Corporation</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Author: Weaver, Walt</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp; INET: wweaver_at_rightnow.com</FONT>
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