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RE: Too many archive log

From: Satar Naghshineh <Satar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:45:44 -0700
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Two words Roy.. Check Point ;)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Ferguson [SMTP:rferguso_at_level1.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 8:52 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: Too many archive log
>
>
> Winnie,
>
> just curious, but what are the recovery issues if you are only switching
> every
> 1/2 hour?...I understand the cost of generating archive logs at 4 a minute
> but
> if it's 1 every 30 minutes don't you run the risk of loosing 30MG of data
> if a
> crash were to happen?
>
> Roy
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Gee.. 1MB redolog file is WAY too small!! You should definitely
> increased
> > the size of the redo log.
> >
> > It is very costly for Oracle to do the log switch. You would want to
> have
> > it doing a switch about every 30 minutes only. You will have less
> > archivelog this way, but the size of the logs will be bigger.
> >
> > Winnie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Larry Taylor <ltaylor_at_iq.com>@fatcity.com on 10/26/2000 10:25:28 AM
> >
> > Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >
> > Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
> >
> >
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > cc:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My database has 2 redo log groups and each group has 3 members.
> > Each members size is 1 meg each.
> >
> > The problem is that archive logs are generated at a fast rate:
> >
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056768 Oct 23 19:21 0000091001.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056768 Oct 23 19:21 0000091002.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056768 Oct 23 19:21 0000091003.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056768 Oct 23 19:22 0000091004.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056768 Oct 23 19:22 0000091005.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1050112 Oct 23 19:22 0000091006.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056768 Oct 23 19:22 0000091007.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056768 Oct 23 19:23 0000091008.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056768 Oct 23 19:23 0000091009.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1052672 Oct 23 19:23 0000091010.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056768 Oct 23 19:23 0000091011.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056256 Oct 23 19:24 0000091012.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056768 Oct 23 19:24 0000091013.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056768 Oct 23 19:24 0000091014.arc
> > -rw-r----- 1 oracle dba 1056768 Oct 23 19:24 0000091015.arc
> >
> > Isnt it good practice to keep 3 days worth of archive logs on disk
> > in case needed? If so, what is the best solutions for this high rate
> > logs being generated so often?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> > --
> > Author: Larry Taylor
> > INET: ltaylor_at_iq.com
> >
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> > --
> > Author:
> > INET: Winnie_Liu_at_infonet.com
> >
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>
> --
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> --
> Author: Roy Ferguson
> INET: rferguso_at_level1.com
>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Two words = Roy..&nbsp; Check Point&nbsp;&nbsp; ;)</FONT> </P>

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">From:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT =
SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Roy Ferguson [SMTP:rferguso_at_level1.com]</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT = SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Thursday, October 26, 2000 8:52 PM</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 = FACE=3D"Arial">Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT>=
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Winnie,</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">just curious, but what are the = recovery issues if you are only switching every </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">1/2 hour?...I understand the cost of = generating archive logs at 4 a minute but </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">if it's 1 every 30 minutes don't you = run the risk of loosing 30MG of data if a </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">crash were to happen?</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Roy</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Gee.. 1MB redolog file is WAY = too small!! You should definitely increased</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; the size of the redo log.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; It is very costly for Oracle to =
do the log switch. You would want to have</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; it doing a switch about every 30 = minutes only. You will have less</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; archivelog this way, but the = size of the logs will be bigger.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Winnie</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Larry Taylor =
&lt;ltaylor_at_iq.com&gt;@fatcity.com on 10/26/2000 10:25:28 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Please respond to = ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Sent by:&nbsp; = root_at_fatcity.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; To:&nbsp;&nbsp; Multiple =
recipients of list ORACLE-L &lt;ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; cc:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Hi all,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; My database has 2 redo log =
groups and each group has 3 members.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Each members size is 1 meg = each.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; The problem is that archive logs = are generated at a fast rate:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 =
oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056768 Oct 23 =
19:21 0000091001.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056768 Oct 23 = 19:21 0000091002.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056768 Oct 23 = 19:21 0000091003.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056768 Oct 23 = 19:22 0000091004.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056768 Oct 23 = 19:22 0000091005.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1050112 Oct 23 = 19:22 0000091006.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056768 Oct 23 = 19:22 0000091007.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056768 Oct 23 = 19:23 0000091008.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056768 Oct 23 = 19:23 0000091009.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1052672 Oct 23 = 19:23 0000091010.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056768 Oct 23 = 19:23 0000091011.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056256 Oct 23 = 19:24 0000091012.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056768 Oct 23 = 19:24 0000091013.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056768 Oct 23 = 19:24 0000091014.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; -rw-r-----&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 = oracle&nbsp;&nbsp; dba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1056768 Oct 23 = 19:24 0000091015.arc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Isnt it good practice to keep 3 = days worth of archive logs on disk</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; in case needed? If so, what is = the best solutions for this high rate</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; logs being generated so = often?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Thanks in advance.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; --</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Please see the official ORACLE-L =
FAQ:</FONT><U> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A = HREF=3D"http://www.orafaq.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.orafaq.com</A></FONT></U>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; --</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Author: Larry Taylor</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; INET: =
ltaylor_at_iq.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt; Fat City Network = Services&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -- (858) 538-5051&nbsp; FAX: (858) = 538-5051</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Author: Roy Ferguson</FONT>
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