RE: re: Profiles, idle time and the web

Hey Mladen,

You are definitely welcome to work with me! I like people say things the straight way. And you are way, sometimes there is no silver bullet that would fix the whole problem. Reprogramme is the only way. If you find it too hard to accept or cost you too much work, just present it to the management this way. Ask them for more man power or more money, or even consider switch to a better product.

DBAs cannot perform magic. We all work subject to constraints. And Mladen did give you an answer. The answer is just a pure NO WAY.

Winnie

"Gogala, Mladen" <MGogala_at_oxhp.com>@fatcity.com on 10/17/2000 03:21:44 PM

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Subject: RE: re: Profiles, idle time and the web

It's a "he". And I did respond to the question: reprogramming is the only way. The lady was looking for a silver bullet that would somehow make the forms handle the unhandled exceptions. Of course, silver ammunition does not exist. Why do people always get angry when someone tells them that?
That reminds of the "Shark Tank" column in the Computerworld magazine and the anecdote in which an IS manager asks for the schedule of all unexpected outages....

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In addition, [s]he didn't even respond to the question that was actually asked.

At 06:55 PM 10/16/00 -0800, you wrote:
>If you have nothing better to do than answer a question in such a
demeaning and senseless manner, you should not be answering at all! Trust me, you would never work in my shop!
>
>
>
>Victoria DeVore
>Linn-Benton Community College
>Systems & Application Programming Manager
>6500 Pacific Blvd. SW
>Albany, OR 97321
>(541)917-4355
>(541)917-4379 FAX
>devorev_at_gw.lbcc.cc.or.us
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>>>> MGogala_at_oxhp.com 10/16/00 06:21PM >>>
>Of course that killing of the session will cause an exception in
>the running forms programs! What do you think should happen? The
>form should proceed normally regardless of the fact that it has
>just been disconnected from the database? I don't think so. Remember,
>the whole session and with it the whole form context is gone. What
>should a decent the form do? Ignore such a minute annoyance? Send
>the user back to Kansas? Page the DBA?
>
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>
>I am maintaining a third party application system that is run thru the web
>via OAS 4.0.8.1 to D2K 1.6.1 server. I am trying to control user idle
time.
>We set an idle time of 120 minutes in a profile on the database side. The
>only problem is it causes unhandled exceptions in the forms. I know I
could
>control this in the form, but as I mentioned this is a third party
product.
>There are 100s of forms and I do not want to modify all of the forms, let
>alone maintain them.
>
>My question is, is there any other way to capture this idle timeout? Any
>suggestions?
>
>
>Victoria DeVore
>Linn-Benton Community College
>Systems & Application Programming Manager
>6500 Pacific Blvd. SW
>Albany, OR 97321
>(541)917-4355
>(541)917-4379 FAX
>devorev_at_gw.lbcc.cc.or.us
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