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RE: Mainframe-class

From: Sais, Gene <gsais_at_qode.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:34:28 -0400
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I have to agree with Dick. I have worked with Sun and HP, both are good. HP is better in the HA environment. HP MC serviceguard is less expensive than Sun's Veritas Trusted Cluster.

Gene Sais

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From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com [mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:30 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re:Mainframe-class

Nosie,

    After 8 years of having those old reliable boulders in the computer room, I
can very happily recommend HP's 9000 series of computers with HP-UX, any flavor
you like, and EMC's Symetrix disk arrays. I call them "boulders" because that's
just how they act, they just sit there doing their jobs 24x7x52 without so much
as an uncontrolled burb. I'd say that the latest series on L & N class machines
are really good with their built-in "soft fail" and total hot-swap capability.
Also, in HP's case where it's an extra, go with Predictive Support. They add a
software package onto the machine that snoops around looking for trouble & then
calls home. It's kind of nice having your support guy call from the front desk
with a spare part in hand, before you even notice a problem.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Nosie" <tekait11_at_bni.co.id>
Date:       10/12/00 9:45 PM

Dear All,

My team is writing a proposal for our huge core system using Oracle database. We already consider IBM mainframe S/390 as an alternative and we are now looking for another alternative using UNIX env. Can anybody inform or recommend me the largest, most-powerful, stable unix machine where Oracle can run on?

Thank you in advance.

Nosie

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I have to agree with Dick.&nbsp; I have worked with =
Sun and HP, both are good.&nbsp; HP is better in the HA = environment.&nbsp; HP MC serviceguard is less expensive than Sun's = Veritas Trusted Cluster.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Gene Sais</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com">mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:30 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re:Mainframe-class</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Nosie,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; After 8 years of having those old =
reliable boulders in the computer room, I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>can very happily recommend HP's 9000 series of =
computers with HP-UX, any flavor</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>you like, and EMC's Symetrix disk arrays.&nbsp; I =
call them &quot;boulders&quot; because that's</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>just how they act, they just sit there doing their =
jobs 24x7x52 without so much</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>as an uncontrolled burb.&nbsp; I'd say that the =
latest series on L &amp; N class machines</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>are really good with their built-in &quot;soft =
fail&quot; and total hot-swap capability. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Also, in HP's case where it's an extra, go with =
Predictive Support.&nbsp; They add a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>software package onto the machine that snoops around =
looking for trouble &amp; then</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>calls home.&nbsp; It's kind of nice having your =
support guy call from the front desk</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>with a spare part in hand, before you even notice a =
problem.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dick Goulet</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>____________________Reply =
Separator____________________</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Author: &quot;Nosie&quot; =
&lt;tekait11_at_bni.co.id&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 10/12/00 =
9:45 PM</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dear All,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>My team is writing a proposal for our huge core =
system using Oracle</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>database. We already consider IBM mainframe S/390 as =
an alternative and we</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>are now looking for another alternative using UNIX =
env. Can anybody inform</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>or recommend me the largest, most-powerful, stable =
unix machine where Oracle</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>can run on?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thank you in advance.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Nosie</FONT>
</P>

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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Author: Nosie</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; INET: tekait11_at_bni.co.id</FONT>
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