Re: Oracle on NT vs Oracle on Linux

From: Joseph S. Testa <teci_at_oracle-dba.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 08:53:12 -0400
Message-Id: <10639.118455@fatcity.com>

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Charles, rh7.0, yikes, i never trust any .0 out of RH, too many bugs for my liking and yes, Uncle Larry especially with his new "power unit" is robbing people blind, but at least they have the "developer" license so those of use who want to live on bleeding edge of oracle rdbms can at least play with it w/o paying for it :).

for those of you who dont know what i'm talking about go to technet.oracle.com

joe

Charles Wolfe wrote:

> Hi Joe, I most definitely did NOT say anything in favor of NT, I
> merely said that the factors the poster listed should not be
> considered relevant for choosing an operating system to host a
> business database. In fact, I much prefer Linux (and am currently
> running RedHat 7 on my laptop), but if I mentioned the inclusion of
> source code and the fact that it can be had for free as compelling
> reasons for a customer to choose Linux over any other operating system
> to host a business database, I would be laughed out of the room.
> Sure, there is lots of support available in the Linux community, but
> is anyone posting to a listserv or newsgroup accountable for the
> advice they post? NO. And speaking of sucking money, Uncle Larry
> definitely ain't running a charitable institution. Chuck
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joseph S. Testa
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 11:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Oracle on NT vs Oracle on Linux
> Oh please, there is more support and chance of getting
> something fixed in linux world than EVER IN WINDOZE
> world. Just how do you expect something like NT to run
> business critical apps when the solution for anything that
> goes wrong is reboot or reload.
>
> yea this is a sore spot, cuz M$ sucks, the software sucks,
> the company sucks people's money.
>
> joe
>
>
>
>
> Wolfe wrote:
>
> > For business decision makers, and most DBAs the inclusion
> > of operating system source code is not terribly relevant.
> > Free also generally implies unsupported or informally
> > supported (i.e. listservs, newsgroups...) which is not
> > acceptable for business critical applications.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:Satar Naghshineh
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 4:55 PM
> > Subject: RE: Oracle on NT vs Oracle on Linux
> > www.unix-vs-nt.org the kirch paper
> >
> > Linux is better because it's free and they
> > provide the source code.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Satar
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrey Bronfin
> > [SMTP:bronfin_at_navixo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:27 PM
> > To: ORACLE-L_at_lists.sunysb.edu;
> > ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com;
> > oracledba_at_quickdoc.co.uk
> > Subject: Oracle on NT vs Oracle on
> > Linux
> >
> > Dear list !
> >
> > A friend asked me this question :
> >
> > they want to build an Oracle DB on a server
> > ( PC ) dedicated exclusively for the DB .
> > They ask whether it is better to put a
> > Linux or an NT on that PC .
> > I.e which OS is better for hosting an
> > Oracle DB on PC ?
> > What are the pros & cons of each ?
> > They are mostly concerned about reliability
> > & performance .
> >
> > TIA .
> >
> >
> > Andrey Bronfin
> > VisualTop.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> --
> Joe Testa http://www.oracle-dba.com
>
>
>

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Charles, rh7.0, yikes, i never trust any .0 out of RH, too many bugs for my liking and yes, Uncle Larry especially with his new "power unit" is robbing people blind, but at least they have the "developer" license so those of use who want to live on bleeding edge of oracle rdbms can at least play with it w/o paying for it :).

<p>for those of you who dont know what i'm talking about go to technet.oracle.com
<p>joe
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<p>Charles Wolfe wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Hi Joe,</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I

most definitely did NOT say anything in favor of NT, I merely said that the factors the poster listed should not be considered relevant for choosing an operating system to host a business database.  In fact, I much prefer Linux (and am currently running RedHat 7 on my laptop), but if I mentioned the inclusion of source code and the fact that it can be had for free as compelling reasons for a customer to choose Linux over any other operating system to host a business database, I would be laughed out of the room.  Sure, there is lots of support available in the Linux community, but is anyone posting to a listserv or newsgroup accountable for the advice they post?  NO.  And speaking of sucking money, Uncle Larry definitely ain't running a charitable institution.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Chuck</font></font> <blockquote
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:teci_at_oracle-dba.com" title="teci_at_oracle-dba.com">Joseph S. Testa</a></div>

<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com" title="ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com">Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</a></div>

<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 03, 2000 11:10 PM</div>

<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Oracle on NT vs Oracle on Linux</div>
 Oh please,   there is more support and chance of getting something fixed in linux world than EVER IN WINDOZE world.    Just how do you expect something like NT to run business critical apps when the solution for anything that goes wrong is reboot or reload. <p>yea this is a sore spot, cuz M$ sucks, the software sucks, the company sucks people's money.

<p>joe
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<p>&nbsp;Wolfe wrote:
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business decision makers, and most DBAs the inclusion of operating system source code is not terribly relevant.  Free also generally implies unsupported or informally supported (i.e. listservs, newsgroups...) which is not acceptable for business critical applications.</font></font> <blockquote

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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b><a href="mailto:Satar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com" title="Satar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com">Satar Naghshineh</a></div>

<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com" title="ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com">Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</a></div>

<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 03, 2000 4:55 PM</div>

<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> RE: Oracle on NT vs Oracle on Linux</div>
 <font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>www.unix-vs-nt.org  the kirch paper</font></font></font>

<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>Linux is better
because it's free and they provide the source code.</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>Regards,</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>Satar</font></font></font>

<ul><font face="Arial"><font size=-2>-----Original Message-----</font></font> <br><font face="Arial"><font size=-2><b>From:  </b>Andrey Bronfin [<a href="mailto:SMTP:bronfin_at_navixo.com">SMTP:bronfin_at_navixo.com</a>]</font></font>

<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-2><b>Sent:&nbsp; </b>Tuesday, October
03, 2000 6:27 PM</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-2><b>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </b><a href="mailto:ORACLE-L_at_lists.sunysb.edu">ORACLE-L_at_lists.sunysb.edu</a>;
<a href="mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com">ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</a>; <a href="mailto:oracledba_at_quickdoc.co.uk">oracledba_at_quickdoc.co.uk</a></font></font>
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</b>Oracle on NT vs Oracle on Linux</font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Dear list !</font></font>

<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>A friend asked me this question :</font></font> <p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>they want to build an Oracle DB on a server ( PC ) dedicated exclusively for the DB .</font></font> <br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>They ask whether it is better to put a Linux or an NT on that PC .</font></font> <br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I.e which OS is better for hosting an Oracle DB on PC ?</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>What are the pros & cons of each ?</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>They are mostly concerned about reliability & performance .</font></font>

<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>TIA .</font></font>
<br>&nbsp;
<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Andrey Bronfin</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>VisualTop.com</font></font>
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