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Re: Oracle on NT vs Oracle on Linux

From: <Frank.Dodgers_at_janus.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:01:33 -0600
Message-Id: <10639.118454@fatcity.com>


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I say skip the PC all together. But if you must - go with SQL Server on NT or Oracle on Linux. There is a third choice too, that is UDB (a.k.a. DB2) on NT, god forbid, because you are talking serious bucks for support on this puppy.

The biggest issue to me is that NT does not scale TODAY, and will not scale beyond UNIX in the foreseeable future (3 years anyway). So if you can get UNIX (Linux in this case) or NT for a similar price, then why not go with the one that scales?.............thus avoiding future problems (maybe not so future in many cases). An enterprise that cannot cover the COST difference between NT and UNIX, and thus does not intuitively understand the BENEFIT, is not one for which I am willing to waste my time...............the pig will never whistle.

In an age of specialization, NT is all things to all people (attempting to be anyway). I need a database server. There are tons of 1000, 10,000 and even 1,000,000 row databases that work fine on NT. But beyond that you will need the BIGGEST, BADEST BIG-BUCKS NET-FINITY from BIG-BLUE. Why waste brain cells on it? - just get a UNIX box (SMP, MPP, or NUMA) and goooooooooooo build

databases................

Frank

"Charles Wolfe" <cwolfe_at_ix.netcom.com> on 10/04/2000 06:00:31 AM

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> cc: (bcc: Frank Dodgers/Janus)
Subject: Re: Oracle on NT vs Oracle on Linux

Hi Joe,

I most definitely did NOT say anything in favor of NT, I merely said that the factors the poster listed should not be considered relevant for choosing an operating system to host a business database. In fact, I much prefer Linux (and am currently running RedHat 7 on my laptop), but if I mentioned the inclusion of source code and the fact that it can be had for free as compelling reasons for a customer to choose Linux over any other operating system to host a business database, I would be laughed out of the room. Sure, there is lots of support available in the Linux community, but is anyone posting to a listserv or newsgroup accountable for the advice they post? NO. And speaking of sucking money, Uncle Larry definitely ain't running a charitable institution.

Chuck

  Oh please, there is more support and chance of getting something fixed in linux world than EVER IN WINDOZE world. Just how do you expect something like NT to run business critical apps when the solution for anything that goes wrong is reboot or reload.
  yea this is a sore spot, cuz M$ sucks, the software sucks, the company sucks people's money.

  joe

   Wolfe wrote:

    For business decision makers, and most DBAs the inclusion of operating system source code is not terribly relevant. Free also generally implies unsupported or informally supported (i.e. listservs, newsgroups...) which is not acceptable for business critical applications.

      Regards,
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        -----Original Message-----
        From:  Andrey Bronfin [SMTP:bronfin_at_navixo.com]
        Sent:  Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:27 PM
        To:    ORACLE-L_at_lists.sunysb.edu; ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com;
oracledba_at_quickdoc.co.uk
        Subject:       Oracle on NT vs Oracle on Linux
        Dear list !

        A friend asked me this question :

        they want to build an Oracle DB on a server ( PC ) dedicated exclusively
for the DB .
        They ask whether it is better to put a Linux or an NT on that PC .
        I.e which OS is better for hosting an Oracle DB on PC ?
        What are the pros & cons of each ?
        They are mostly concerned about reliability & performance .

        TIA .


        Andrey Bronfin
        VisualTop.com




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