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Re: Max datafilesze in ORACLE8i

From: Allan Nelson <anelson_at_houston.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:20:29 -0500
Message-Id: <10612.116456@fatcity.com>


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Max datafilesze in ORACLE8iThis usually depends on the OS rather than = Oracle.

Allan

  Hi List,=20
  I am not sure whether this question is put or not in the list.=20   Is there any limit oracle imposes on the size of a datafile.Somebody = said it is 2GB.=20
  Can any one of you tell me the max datafile size possible and also the = oracle recommended size.It is for Oracle 8.1.5.=20

  Thanx=20
  Uma Shankar=20

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    From: Davide Bellesi[SMTP:davide.bellesi_at_visto.com]=20     Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com=20     Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:05 AM=20

    To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20
    Subject:        Re: ORA-4031=20

    Hi, (.. i want to apologize for my BAD english)=20
      have you cheked the fragmentation of your shared pool ??=20
    Are there hundreds of concurrent users not using bind variables ??=20

    :)=20

    I think you've already checked that, so :=20

    I faced with this kind of error during a bulk insert on a = datawarehouse (Oracle 8.1.5, HP-UX )=20

    My "little" INSERT used 300M in the shared pool.=20     After doubling the shared pool, my 'little' INSERT used 600 M.=20

    It seemed to be a BUG ..... maybe platform specific=20

    I can ask to Oracle if this fits you requests=20

    Hope this helps=20
    Davide=20

    -----Original Message-----=20
    Sent: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 06:34:38 -0800=20     To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com=20

    We had a similar error but it was ORA-04030 that pointed to system = memory=20

    being exhausted.=20
    I am assuming you are on a UNIX OS and that you are running perl = there.=20

    On NT it is much trickier to pinpoint a problem. I don't know of any =

    accurate memory diagnostic tools out there for NT=20

    I went looking at the ulimit for the user on AIX 4.3.3.0 platform=20     The systems admin and I upped the ulimit from 256M for data soft = limit to=20

    512M for the hard limit which the soft limit can be raised to=20     That took care of the immediate need.=20

    Then went to explain plan the code. There was the key. Besides = trying to=20

    take an average on the start and stop date(s), and having 6 million = rows=20

    for the major table being joined there were several small coding = tricks=20

    they didn't take advantage of at the start.=20     Once we sent the code through explain plan and saw how much nesting, = full=20

    table scans, and such we then started to tune their code.=20

    My suggestion is to do both memory tuning of the system file on UNIX = and=20

    checking of the code.=20
    For the system file (if you have one.. on Solaris and HP-UX there is = one)=20

    Make sure shmmax and other shared memory segment parameters are = tuned for=20

    the system.=20
    I heard that Toad is a good tool to use for the database (tuning and =

    maintenance and such)=20
    I am aiming to give it a whirl in the next few weeks.=20     Further aside...=20
    I tried getting SQL Station to work but it is a) intrusive with = requiring=20

    you to create some sort of repository in the target database b) not = user=20

    install friendly=20

    Good luck.=20

         Heidi=20

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Hi friends,=20 I have a perl script that load file content into a=20
    table, since this morning I am facing with the=20     following error:=20

    FATAL ERROR: (DBD::Oracle::db do failed: ORA-04031:=20     unable to allocate 52 bytes of shared memory ("shared=20     pool","insert into grille values ('...","sql=20     area","strdef : prsstr") (DBD ERROR: OCIStmtExecute)=20     at infinit.pm line 123, <FILE> chunk 1.=20     )=20

    I have increased the shared_pool-size and parameter in=20     init.ora and I still running the same problem. I don't=20     know what I can do else ;)=20

    This is fragment from my init.ora:=20

    shared_pool_size =3D 36000000=20
    shared_pool_reserved_size =3D 160000000=20
    shared_pool_reserved_min_alloc =3D 8000000=20
    sort_area_size =3D 2000000=20

    Thank you for your help in advance,=20

    Kader=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Allan</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3DUmaSankara_Sivadanam_at_satyam.com=20   href=3D"mailto:UmaSankara_Sivadanam_at_satyam.com">Uma = Sankara_Sivadanam</A> </DIV>
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  href=3D"mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com">Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L</A>=20
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  <P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hi List,</FONT> = <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I am not sure whether this question is put or = not in the=20
  list.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Is there = any limit=20
  oracle imposes on the size of a datafile.Somebody said it is = 2GB.</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Can any one of you = tell me the max=20
  datafile size possible and also the oracle recommended size.It is for = Oracle=20
  8.1.5.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Thanx</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Uma Shankar</FONT> </P><BR>   <UL>
    <P><FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif" size=3D1>----------</FONT> = <BR><B><FONT=20

    face=3D"MS Sans Serif" size=3D1>From:</FONT></B> &nbsp; <FONT=20     face=3D"MS Sans Serif" size=3D1>Davide=20     Bellesi[SMTP:davide.bellesi_at_visto.com]</FONT> <BR><B><FONT=20     face=3D"MS Sans Serif" size=3D1>Reply To:</FONT></B>=20     &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif"=20     size=3D1>ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=3D"MS Sans = Serif"=20

    size=3D1>Sent:</FONT></B> &nbsp; <FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif" = size=3D1>Thursday,=20

    September 07, 2000 5:05 AM</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=3D"MS Sans = Serif"=20

    size=3D1>To:</FONT></B> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT face=3D"MS Sans = Serif"=20

    size=3D1>Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><B><FONT=20     face=3D"MS Sans Serif" size=3D1>Subject:</FONT></B>=20     &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif" = size=3D1>Re:=20

    ORA-4031</FONT> </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi, (.. i want to apologize for my = BAD english)=20

    </FONT><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; have you cheked the = fragmentation=20

    of your shared pool ??</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are = there hundreds=20

    of concurrent users not using bind variables ??</FONT> </P>

    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>:)</FONT> </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think you've already checked that, =
so :</FONT>=20
    </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I faced with this kind of error =
during a bulk=20

    insert on a datawarehouse (Oracle 8.1.5, HP-UX )</FONT> </P>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My "little" INSERT used 300M in the = shared=20

    pool.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After doubling the = shared pool, my=20

    'little' INSERT used 600 M.</FONT> </P>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It seemed to be a BUG ..... maybe = platform=20

    specific</FONT> </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can ask to Oracle if this fits you=20     requests</FONT> </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hope this helps</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>Davide</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 = 06:34:38=20

    -0800</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20

    ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT> </P><BR><BR>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We had a similar error but it was = ORA-04030 that=20

    pointed to system memory</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>being=20

    exhausted.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am assuming you = are on a=20

    UNIX OS and that you are running perl there.</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>On NT it is much trickier to pinpoint a problem. I don't = know of=20

    any</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>accurate memory = diagnostic tools out=20

    there for NT</FONT> </P><BR>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I went looking at the ulimit for the = user on AIX=20

    4.3.3.0&nbsp; platform</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The = systems admin=20

    and I&nbsp; upped the ulimit from 256M for data soft limit to</FONT> =

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>512M for the hard limit which the = soft limit can=20

    be raised to</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That took care = of the=20

    immediate need.</FONT> </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Then went&nbsp; to explain plan the = code. There=20

    was the key. Besides trying to</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>take an=20

    average on the start and stop date(s), and having 6 million = rows</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the major table being joined = there were=20

    several small coding tricks</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>they didn't=20

    take advantage of at the start.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Once we=20

    sent the code through explain plan and saw how much nesting, = full</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>table scans, and such we then = started to tune=20

    their code.</FONT> </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My suggestion is to do both memory = tuning of the=20

    system file on UNIX and</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>checking of the=20

    code.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For the system file (if = you have=20

    one.. on Solaris and HP-UX there is one)</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>Make sure shmmax and other shared memory segment parameters = are tuned=20

    for</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the system.</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>I heard that Toad is a good tool to use for = the database=20

    (tuning and</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>maintenance and = such)</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am aiming to give it a whirl in = the next few=20

    weeks.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Further = aside...</FONT> <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried getting SQL Station to work but it is = a) intrusive=20

    with requiring</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>you to create = some sort of=20

    repository in the target database b) not user</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>install friendly</FONT> </P>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck.</FONT> </P>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Heidi</FONT> =

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    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi friends,</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>&nbsp; I have a perl script that load file content into = a</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>table, since this morning I am = facing with=20

    the</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>following error:</FONT> = </P>

    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FATAL ERROR: (DBD::Oracle::db do = failed:=20

    ORA-04031:</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>unable to allocate = 52 bytes of=20

    shared memory ("shared</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>pool","insert into=20

    grille values ('...","sql</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>area","strdef :=20

    prsstr") (DBD ERROR: OCIStmtExecute)</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>at=20

    infinit.pm line 123, &lt;FILE&gt; chunk 1.</FONT> <BR><FONT = face=3DArial=20

    size=3D2>)</FONT> </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have increased the shared_pool-size = and=20

    parameter in</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>init.ora and I = still running=20

    the same problem. I don't</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>know what I can=20

    do else ;)</FONT> </P>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is fragment from my = init.ora:</FONT>=20

    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>shared_pool_size =3D 36000000</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>shared_pool_reserved_size =3D 160000000</FONT> = <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>shared_pool_reserved_min_alloc =3D = 8000000</FONT> <BR><FONT=20

    face=3DArial size=3D2>sort_area_size =3D 2000000</FONT> </P>     <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you for your help in = advance,</FONT> </P>

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    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Author:=20

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