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Re: DISK configuration - help please.

From: Chuck Hamilton <chuck_hamilton_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:46:53 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <10596.115129@fatcity.com>


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 Raid-5 provides good redundancy and read performance but very poor write performance. Each write requires 4 i/os. Depending on your application it might be a good choice for some tablespaces, but would be a bad choice for temp, rollback, redo, and any other structure that has high write volumes.   Steve McClure <steve_at_pactr.com> wrote: I am not going to be much help in regards to your initial question, but I am wondering what is wrong with RAID 5? I have had alot of success with that configuration in the past. What am I missing?

Steve McClure
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:14 AM

> Get rid of RAID 5.
>
> Lyall
>
> At 06:46 AM 8/17/00 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >I am in the process of building two DB servers - one live and the other
> >standby. We are not overly concerned with disk capacity - but rather
with
> >speed of access.
> >
> >Our current configuration is
> >
> >primary has 10 disks in RAID 0+1
> >standby has 6 disks in RAID 5
> >
> >This is to give us 5 physical devices for production - I think a holdover
of
> >OFA guidelines.
> >
> >What I am looking for is a bit of advice on the best optin for current
> >configurations. I can add disks to this later. I am also using Veritas
VM
> >and FS and so can relayout my RAID 5 to RAID 0+1 pretty easily as well.
> >Adding disks to the system is also a breaze.
> >
> >All of these disks are in one FS mounted to /u01 .. .for easy management
on
> >our site we elected one mount point and one very expandable FS.
> >
> >I am considering breaking my configuration and going with 8 disks in 0+1
for
> >both systems - or going with 10 and 6 but both in 0+1 - I don't think
that
> >RAID 5 is a good idea ever - even for a standby system, but there is some
> >pressure to have 5 physical devices and RAID 5 with 6 gives us that
too...
> >
> >
> >Anybody out there willing to throw two cents my way?
> >
> >
> >thanks!
> >
> >adam
> >--
> >Author: Adam Turner
> > INET: ATurner_at_concretemedia.com
> >
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> --
> Author: Lyall Barbour
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<P>&nbsp;Raid-5 provides good redundancy and read performance but very poor write performance. Each write requires 4 i/os. Depending on your application it might be a good choice for some tablespaces, but would be a bad choice for temp, rollback, redo, and any other structure that has high write volumes.
<P>&nbsp; <B><I>Steve McClure &lt;steve_at_pactr.com&gt;</I></B> wrote: <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I am not going to be much help in regards to your initial question, but I am<BR>wondering what is wrong with RAID 5? I have had alot of success with that<BR>configuration in the past. What am I missing?<BR><BR>Steve McClure<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_FATCITY.COM><BR>Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:14 AM<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Get rid of RAID 5.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Lyall<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; At 06:46 AM 8/17/00 -0800, you wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;I am in the process of building two DB servers - one live and the other<BR>&gt; &gt;standby. We are not overly concerned with disk capacity - but rather<BR>with<BR>&gt; &gt;speed of access.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Our current configuration is<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;primary has 10 disks in RAID 0+1<BR>&gt; &gt;standby has 6 disks in RAID 5<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;This is to give us 5 physical device!
s for production - I think a holdover<BR>of<BR>&gt; &gt;OFA guidelines.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;What I am looking for is a bit of advice on the best optin for current<BR>&gt; &gt;configurations. I can add disks to this later. I am also using Veritas<BR>VM<BR>&gt; &gt;and FS and so can relayout my RAID 5 to RAID 0+1 pretty easily as well.<BR>&gt; &gt;Adding disks to the system is also a breaze.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;All of these disks are in one FS mounted to /u01 .. .for easy management<BR>on<BR>&gt; &gt;our site we elected one mount point and one very expandable FS.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;I am considering breaking my configuration and going with 8 disks in 0+1<BR>for<BR>&gt; &gt;both systems - or going with 10 and 6 but both in 0+1 - I don't think<BR>that<BR>&gt; &gt;RAID 5 is a good idea ever - even for a standby system, but there is some<BR>&gt; &gt;pressure to have 5 physical devices and RAID 5 with 6 gives us that<BR>too...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Anyb!
ody out there willing to throw two cents my way?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;thanks!<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;adam<BR>&gt; &gt;--<BR>&gt; &gt;Author: Adam Turner<BR>&gt; &gt; INET: ATurner_at_concretemedia.com<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051<BR>&gt; &gt;San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists<BR>&gt; &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&gt; &gt;To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<BR>&gt; &gt;to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<BR>&gt; &gt;the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<BR>&gt; &gt;(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<BR>&gt; &gt;also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; --<BR>&gt; Author: Lyall Barbour<BR>&gt; INET: lbarbour_at_stanford.edu<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Fat City Network Services -- (858) 53!
8-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051<BR>&gt; San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists<BR>&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&gt; To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<BR>&gt; to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<BR>&gt; the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<BR>&gt; (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<BR>&gt; also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).<BR>&gt;<BR><BR>-- <BR>Author: Steve McClure<BR>INET: steve_at_pactr.com<BR><BR>Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051<BR>San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists<BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<BR>to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<BR>the message BODY, inclu!
de a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<BR>(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<BR>also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).</BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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