Re: WILL YOU GIVE PROGRAMMERS DBA ACCOUNT IF WE SAID YES?

How stupid! It's an embarrassment to developers (myself included) that there are some people out there who do this sort of thing. (My theory is if the database is giving you an error, its giving you an error for a reason!!!)

Do you think it is a lack of knowledge on the developer's part or an 'I don't care' attitude? (Probably both, though.)

What could be done to make / help a developer learn more about reprecussions of actions and how to work WITH a dba, rather than against a dba. It's all so unfortunate because a DBA shouldn't have to worry about what some other database 'professional' is doing.

oh well,
 just a frustrated developer,
Sophie

• Original Message ----- From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_bcbso.com> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: Re: WILL YOU GIVE PROGRAMMERS DBA ACCOUNT IF WE SAID YES?

>
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Chuck Hamilton wrote:
>
> > Two weeks ago our developers had trouble loading data because of foreign
key constraints.
> > Instead of loading in the proper order, they just disabled the
constraints.
>
> I had a similar problem once with some developers. They could not get
their forms
> to work properly, so the disable the FK constraints!
>
> The schema password was changed immediately.
>
> Jared
>
> >
> >
> > "Khedr, Waleed" <Waleed.Khedr_at_FMR.COM> wrote:
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > [mailto:Donna_M_Vail_at_sd.fisc.navy.mil]
> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:58 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Sending this again, Because I did not have a subject last time.
> >
> > I sure would appreciate some opinions on this. At my place of work we
have
> >
> > two teams in our division. One team is the application programmers and
the
> >
> > other team is UNIX system/Oracle DBAs. I have a new platform that just
> > came in. I need to set up the Oracle database and Oracle Application
> > Server
> > on it. Here's the question. My application programmer wants the
> > Oracle
> > DBA account and the sys account. This platform is not a test platform.
> >
> > Yes they are developing on this platform and then it will go into
> > production. My Oracle DBA's do not want to give out the accounts to
> > the
> > developers.
> > Who do I please?
> > Donna_M_Vail_at_sd.fisc.navy.mil
> >
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