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RE: DO I GIVE PROGRAMMERS ORACLE DBA ACCOUNT? - H*LL NO!

From: Koivu, Lisa <lkoivu_at_qode.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:57:27 -0400
Message-Id: <10568.112781@fatcity.com>


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Donna, to be subtle:

NO NO NO!!!!!!!

Unless they are willing to recover a database, DO NOT give them sys and system!
That's the argument I always present to consultants who want system or DBA privileges. ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I do not envy your position....
Good Luck

Lisa
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA

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From: Donna_M_Vail_at_sd.fisc.navy.mil
[mailto:Donna_M_Vail_at_sd.fisc.navy.mil]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:58 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: DO I GIVE PROGRAMMERS ORACLE DBA ACCOUNT?

Sending this again, Because I did not have a subject last time.

I sure would appreciate some opinions on this. At my place of work we have

two teams in our division. One team is the application programmers and the

other team is UNIX system/Oracle DBAs. I have a new platform that just came in. I need to set up the Oracle database and Oracle Application Server
on it. Here's the question. My application programmer wants the Oracle
DBA account and the sys account. This platform is not a test platform.

Yes they are developing on this platform and then it will go into production. My Oracle DBA's do not want to give out the accounts to the
developers.
Who do I please?

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Donna, to be subtle:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>NO NO NO!!!!!!!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Unless they are willing to recover a database, DO NOT =
give them sys and system!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>That's the argument I always present to consultants =
who want system or DBA privileges.&nbsp; ABSOLUTELY NOT.&nbsp; </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I do not envy your position....</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Good Luck</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Lisa</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Donna_M_Vail_at_sd.fisc.navy.mil</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>[<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Donna_M_Vail_at_sd.fisc.navy.mil">mailto:Donna_M_Vail_at_sd.fis= c.navy.mil</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:58 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: DO I GIVE PROGRAMMERS ORACLE DBA =
ACCOUNT?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sending this again, Because I did not have a subject =
last time.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I sure would appreciate some opinions on =
this.&nbsp;&nbsp; At my place of work we have </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>two teams in our division.&nbsp;&nbsp; One team is =
the application programmers and the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>other team is UNIX system/Oracle =
DBAs.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have a new platform that just =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>came in.&nbsp; I need to set up&nbsp;&nbsp; the =
Oracle database and Oracle Application Server </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>on it.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Here's the =
question.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My application programmer wants = the&nbsp; Oracle </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>DBA account and the sys =
account.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This platform is not a test = platform.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yes they are developing on this platform and then it =
will go into </FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>production.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My = Oracle DBA's do not want to give out the accounts to the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>developers.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Who do I please?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Author: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; INET: Donna_M_Vail_at_sd.fisc.navy.mil</FONT>
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