RE: Tips for Building the Designer2000 Repository

From: Shockey, David <DShockey_at_jwrinc.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:53:16 -0500
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What do you mean by a stable data model? It is our intention to build the systems from scratch using Designer. Some business process reengineering is an objective of the project. A new data model will be a product of the project, not something that we will start with.
From my study (not experience) of Designer so far it appears that the possible methodologies are dictated by Designer. Is this what you mean?
This implies that 100% generation is not possible, at least on your project. Are the forms changes that you make using Developer incorporated into the application version that is in the Designer repository or is that a part of the application that must be maintained seperately?
I'll get in touch with him as we get closer to installing and using Designer.

Thanks!

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From: Rusnak, George A. II [mailto:rusnakg_at_SDCL.LEE.ARMY.MIL] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 9:45 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Tips for Building the Designer2000 Repository

We am currently involved in a very large project that is using Designer. I would suggest that if you intend to use Designer that you consider a few things.

1) Make sure you have a STABLE data model that supports your business.
2) If you buy into Oracle Designer then buy into the Oracle methodology.
3) Get Just in Time (JIT) training on Oracle Forms esp.. a custom course on

Forms triggers.
5) We have a gentleman on site that you NEED to discuss your Designer development strategy with:

     David Wendelken
     CASEtech Inc.
     dwendelken_at_casetech.net <mailto:dwendelken_at_casetech.net>

Al Rusnak

DSN 687-4937
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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 2:08 PM
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We are considering using Designer for application development. In the real world, how close can you get to 100% generation? If changes are made using Developer, can the changes be included in the application version that is stored in the repository?

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1.  What do you mean by a stable data =
model?  It is our intention to build the systems from scratch = using Designer.  Some business process reengineering is an = objective of the project.  A new data model will be a product of = the project, not something that we will start with.

2.  From my study (not experience) of Designer =
so far it appears that the possible methodologies are dictated by = Designer.  Is this what you mean?

3.  This implies that 100% generation is not =
possible, at least on your project.  Are the forms changes that = you make using Developer incorporated into the application version that = is in the Designer repository or is that a part of the application that = must be maintained seperately?

4.  I'll get in touch with him as we get closer =
to installing and using Designer.


Thanks!


-----Original Message-----
 From: Rusnak, George A. II [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:rusnakg_at_SDCL.LEE.ARMY.MIL">mailto:rusnakg_at_SDCL.LEE.ARMY.M= IL</A>]
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 9:45 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Tips for Building the Designer2000 =
Repository

 

We am currently involved in a very large project that =
is using Designer. I
 would suggest that if you intend to use Designer =
that you consider a few
 things. 
 1) Make sure you have a STABLE data model that =
supports your business.
 2) If you buy into Oracle Designer then buy into the =
Oracle methodology.
 3) Get Just in Time (JIT) training on Oracle Forms =
esp.. a custom course on
 Forms triggers. 
 5) We have a gentleman on site that you NEED to =
discuss your Designer
 development strategy with:
      David Wendelken
      CASEtech Inc.
      dwendelken_at_casetech.net =
<<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:dwendelken_at_casetech.net">mailto:dwendelken_at_casetech.net</= A>> 
  

 

Al  Rusnak 


DSN 687-4937 
 COM (804)734-4937 


 


-----Original Message-----
 Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 2:08 PM
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We are considering using Designer for application =
development.  In the real
 world, how close can you get to 100% =
generation?  If changes are made using
 Developer, can the changes be included in the =
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