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RE: arch directory filled; restart ARCH process?

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:25:54 -0700
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RE: arch directory filled; restart ARCH process?The size of the archive log it has to produce is a lot bigger then anything it needs to write into the alert.log. In my experience the archive log directory has never filled up to the point where there
are no bytes left at all. It may show 100% but there is still a tiny amount of space left.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Alex Hillman   Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:26 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L   Subject: RE: arch directory filled; restart ARCH process?

  Would be interesting to know what would happen if archive logs were in the same file system as alert.log. On NT it is often the situation for small boxes - let say they have 1 disk. Anybody knows the answer?

  Alex Hillman

  -----Original Message-----
  From: James Bullard [mailto:jbullard_at_onvia.com]   Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 7:48 PM   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L   Subject: RE: arch directory filled; restart ARCH process?

  There was also a bug in 8.0.5 on HP/UNIX and archiver would not restart   after the destination had been cleared, however, they do have a patch.   Apparently it is eliminated in 8.0.6. Another interesting side note, on our
  live site, we had the same problem occur and Oracle will spawn other   archiver processes in the event after some prodding the first one does not   respond. It shows up in the alert log.

  James

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  Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 2:23 PM   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

  Once the archive destination has free space the arch process should restart
  automatically by itself. I've had this happen every so often. The DB does
  not
  crash although arch gets wrapped up around the flag pole pretty bad till it
  gets
  fixed. The DB will continue to run normally until the last of the online   redo
  logs gets filled at which time it ceases to run additional transactions,   freezes
  anybody currently logged on and refuses to accept any new connections.   Mostly
  folks will get an ORA-00257 error and that's all. Once Arch is freed up and
  has
  had time to archive one online redo log successfully things will return to   normal by themselves. BTW: If arch was writing to a file when the directory
  filled, it will hold that file open & try to finish when it can.

  Dick Goulet

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  Author: "Sandy Ocheltree" <ora_dba_at_hotmail.com>
  Date:       7/12/00 10:45 AM

  Help. I have just started working with a database in archivelog mode. The   process that writes our archived logs to tape failed yesterday and   eventually the directory that holds the logs filled. The database did not   crash though! (I thought that's how it worked?) The alert log has entries   showing ARCH trying to write to the filled directory, and failing, but no db

  crash. I have copied the archived files off for now and freed up space--is   it safe to just restart the ARCH process? Once the process is restarted will

  it continue to write to the file that it was archiving to when it failed? Or

  will it write to a new file? Am I missing something crucial here?   Thanks,
  Sandy



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  <P><FONT size=3D2>There was also a bug in 8.0.5 on HP/UNIX and = archiver would=20
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  <P><FONT size=3D2>James&nbsp; </FONT></P>   <P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT = size=3D2>Sent:=20
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  archive one online redo log successfully things will return to</FONT>=20   <BR><FONT size=3D2>normal by themselves.&nbsp; BTW: If arch was = writing to a=20
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  <BR><FONT size=3D2>Author: "Sandy Ocheltree" = &lt;ora_dba_at_hotmail.com&gt;</FONT>=20
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  <P><FONT size=3D2>Help. I have just started working with a database in =

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  Once the process is restarted will</FONT> </P>   <P><FONT size=3D2>it continue to write to the file that it was = archiving to when=20
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  <P><FONT size=3D2>will it write to a new file? Am I missing something = crucial=20
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