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RE: Tell me about the confused OCP.

From: Surendra_Tirumala <Surendra_Tirumala_at_hht.satyam.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 01:54:28 +0530
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Janardhan,
I was also in the same impression two months back. I sent mail to Oracle (i don't remeber the exact address now) requesting clarification reg this.
They clearly replied stating what I had mentioned in my earlier reply. I have that reply also with me in my hotmail account which I cannot access now.I had forwarded that mail to some of my friends. I will try to get it and post it over here.

Surendra
OCP DBA
> ----------
> From: Janardhana Babu
> Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 1:26 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Tell me about the confused OCP.
>
> I do not think the certification is valid forever. We need to take the
> upgrade exam before your certification expires. The expiration dates will
> be
> available at http://education.oracle.com <http://education.oracle.com>
> After the expiration date, we need to start all over again to get the
> certification. Let me know if Iam wrong.
>
> -- Janardhana Babu
> OCP DBA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:18 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
> Xiaoliang Chen,
> Once you are certfied in any particular stream( 7/8/8i), your
> certification
> is valid forever.And whenever you want to take up the upgradation exam
> just
> take it.
>
> Best thing for you is to go for 8 stream and later you can think of taking
> up 8i upgradation.My observation is that it is much difficult to clear 8i
> exam directly because of so many new features.
>
> Surendra
>
> ----------
> Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 11:46 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> hi, all,
>
> I decide to pass my OCP DBA in two months. But I do not if I
> directly choose
> Oracle8i test package or choose Oracle8 test package and then have a
> Oracle8i new features test.
>
> One of my friend said this to me:
> Let me tell you why it is not good to do oracle 8i at the moment.
> 1. It will cost you a lot since no one has the stuff for oracle 8i and is
> selling it on the net.
> 2. the market will not revert to oracle 8i before a couple of years,
> because mosst companies recently migrated from oracle 7.3 to oracle 8
> 3. if you do oracle 8 and give the upgrade exam you will have two
> certification. oracle 8 dba and 8i dba.
>
> I am afraid I could hardly get Exam crams about Oracle8i at this
> time. Maybe
> I should first pass the Oracle8 and then pass the upgrate test.
> But someone tell me one must pass the upgrate test in 6 months from the
> day
> the new version was coming up. Which mean if Oracle8i was coming up on
> 01/01/00, I have to pass the upgrate test from Oracle8 to Oracle8i before
> 07/01/00. That mean I could not the upgrate test.....I am so
> confused....help me!
> What is your all 's suggestion? Please give me a reply. Your reply will be
>
> fully appreciated.
>
> Best wishes!
> Yours sincerely, Xiaoliang Chen
> ___________________________________
> SUN certified Solaris7 System Administrator
>
>
>
> --
> Author: Xiaoliang Chen
> INET: ochen_at_netrue.com
>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Janardhan,</FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I was also in the = same impression two months back.</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I sent mail to = Oracle (i don't remeber the exact address now) requesting clarification = reg this.</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">They clearly = replied stating what I had mentioned in my earlier reply.</FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I have that reply = also with me in my hotmail account which I cannot access now.I had = forwarded that mail to some of my friends.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I will try to get it = and post it over here.</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Surendra</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">OCP DBA</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">----------</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">From:</FONT></B> &nbsp; =
<FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Janardhana Babu</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Reply To:</FONT></B> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans = Serif">ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Sent:</FONT></B> &nbsp; = <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Thursday, July 13, 2000 1:26 = AM</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">To:</FONT></B> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Multiple = recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans Serif">Subject:</FONT></B> = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"MS Sans = Serif">RE: Tell me about the confused OCP.</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I do not think the certification is = valid forever. We need to take the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">upgrade exam before your = certification expires. The expiration dates will be</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">available at</FONT><U> <FONT = COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A = HREF=3D"http://education.oracle.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://education.oracle.com</A></FONT></U><FONT = SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> &lt;</FONT><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Arial"><A HREF=3D"http://education.oracle.com" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://education.oracle.com</A></FONT></U><FONT = SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">After the expiration date, we need to = start all over again to get the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">certification. Let me know if Iam = wrong.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-- Janardhana Babu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">OCP DBA</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:18 = PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">To: Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L</FONT>

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<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Xiaoliang Chen, </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Once you are certfied in any = particular stream( 7/8/8i), your certification</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">is valid forever.And whenever you = want to take up the upgradation exam just</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">take it.</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Best thing for you is to go for 8 = stream and later you can think of taking</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">up 8i upgradation.My observation is = that it is much difficult to clear 8i</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">exam directly because of so many new = features.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Surendra </FONT> </P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Arial">---------- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Reply = To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp; Wednesday, July 12, = 2000 11:46 PM </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Multiple = recipients of list ORACLE-L </FONT>
</P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Arial">hi, all, </FONT>
</P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Arial">I decide to pass my OCP DBA in two months. But I do not =

if I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">directly choose </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Oracle8i test package or choose =
Oracle8 test package and then have a </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Oracle8i new features test. </FONT> </P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Arial">One of my friend said this to me: </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Let me tell you why it is not good to = do oracle 8i at the moment. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">1. It will cost you a lot since no = one has the stuff for oracle 8i and is </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">selling it on the net. </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">2. the&nbsp; market will not revert = to oracle 8i before a couple of years, </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">because mosst companies recently = migrated from oracle 7.3 to oracle 8 </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">3. if you do oracle 8 and give the = upgrade exam you will have two </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">certification. oracle 8 dba and 8i = dba. </FONT>
</P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Arial">I am afraid I could hardly get Exam crams about Oracle8i = at this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">time. Maybe </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I should first pass the Oracle8 and = then pass the upgrate test. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">But someone tell me one must pass the = upgrate test in 6 months from the day </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">the new version was coming up. Which = mean if Oracle8i was coming up on </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">01/01/00, I have to pass the upgrate = test from Oracle8 to Oracle8i before </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">07/01/00. That mean I could not the = upgrate test.....I am so </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">confused....help me! </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">What is your all 's suggestion? = Please give me a reply. Your reply will be </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">fully appreciated. </FONT> </P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Arial">Best wishes! </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Yours sincerely, Xiaoliang Chen =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">___________________________________ =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">SUN certified Solaris7 System =
Administrator </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Arial">-- </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Author: Xiaoliang Chen </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp; INET: ochen_at_netrue.com </FONT>
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