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RE: Real world OCP

From: Bill Conner <>
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 10:59:24 -0600
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At 07:34 AM 7/1/00 -0800, you wrote:
>On Sat, 01 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> > >If you want to license dba's how about janitors and the >trash collector?
>How many janitors and trash collectors are on the hook for
>multi-million dollar business environments? The janitor doesn't
>clean someones office, big deal. I forget to do backups and the
>database gets hosed, the company loses $BIGNUM dollars/hour until
>the db is back up.

i have been solely in charge of multi billion $ databases and the co hired me because of experience and background (and i make sure that i can prove it no BS
here), not because i was an oracle master or ocp (or god forbid LICENSED).

>Now do you understand why a certain amount of certification may
>become necessary?

If you think that a license will prove anything than you are less intelligent than even i thought you were, licensing has not made Dr better or lawyers any better just more expensive

No, licensing is a waste of time it really does not prove anything except that you can read an exam cram, i don't pick my Dr based on his degree but based on his experience, not what he shows on an exam. No Really, PLEASE TAKE YOUR LICENSE AND STUFF IT WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE. If you want that kind of control move to a good communist country or dictatorship. Otherwise get on your yuppie horse and ride back to where ever you came from.

>Certification will not eliminate human error,
>but it will help ensure the person admining the database has
>some level of clue.
>That said, the current OCP exams are a joke. I have lost
>a lot of respect for them after working with 'Oracle Certified
>DBA's who didn't even know the syntax for user creation, let
>alone media recovery, tuning, or troubleshooting. However, there
>will become a certification bar DBAs will have to pass in order
>to work with the big boxes and in the interesting environments.
>There is something inherently wrong with the world when Bill Gates is a
>famous billionaire and Dennis Ritchie lives in relative obscurity.
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