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Re: Off topic - replying to items on this list

From: Eric D. Pierce <PierceED_at_csus.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:36:26 -0700
Message-Id: <10543.110819@fatcity.com>


On 29 Jun 2000, at 7:29, Chuck Hamilton wrote:

Date sent:      	Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:29:36 -0800
To:             	Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
Send reply to:  	ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
From:           	Chuck Hamilton <chuck_hamilton_at_yahoo.com>
Subject:        	Re: Off topic - replying to items on this list

> It's also a yahoo-ism, altavista-ism, lotus-notes-ism, and
> any-email-client-that-proprtly-interprets-headers-ism.

With all due respect, unless you can cite the specifics from an RFC (email standards document) proving that, I'm not sure this is true.

Do you really think that Pine and Pegasus Mail are non-standard in how they offer "reply to" options?

(I'm forwarding this to a list I'm on for email SysAdmns to ask for clarification.)

>The headers
> include a "reply-to" which is supposed to tell the client to
> override the "from" header on replies.

There is no "supposed to". Either you email program is capable of PROPERLY interpreting the Listguru headers, and offering you as a user a robust set of "reply" options, or it isn't, and in the latter case, you have to manually cut/paste.

As you can see below, there are "reply to:" (the list address), "from:" (your personal address), AS WELL AS "x-sender" (also your personal address) fields in the full headers.

Are you on a subscriber of any other other listserv-like services where you see things working differently?

Why Outlook/yahoo/altavista/etc are not capable of "seeing" the "from:" or "x-sender:" when you first click reply, I don't know, but I doubt it is because ListGuru is a non-standard implementation!


"raw" headers of your messsage, as revealed by "show full headers" in Pegasus Mail ( http://www.pmail.com ):

---begin raw Listguru header---
Received: from SpoolDir by DSS_486 (Mercury 1.46); 29 Jun 00 11:52:10 -0700 Return-path: <root_at_fatcity.cts.com>
Received: from csus.edu (130.86.90.1) by sswdserver.sswd.csus.edu (Mercury 1.46) with ESMTP;

    29 Jun 00 11:52:02 -0700
Received: from newsfeed.cts.com (newsfeed.cts.com [209.68.192.199])

	by csus.edu with ESMTP id LAA11448;
	Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:52:02 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from fatcity.UUCP (uucp_at_localhost)
	by newsfeed.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id LAA13893;
	Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:51:57 -0700 (PDT)

Received: by fatcity.com (04-May-2000/v1.0f-b69/bab) via UUCP id 00187A24; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:29:36 -0800 Message-ID: <F001.00187A24.20000629072936_at_fatcity.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:29:36 -0800
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum
X-Sender: Chuck Hamilton <chuck_hamilton_at_yahoo.com> Sender: root_at_fatcity.com
Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
Errors-To: ML-ERRORS_at_fatcity.com
From: Chuck Hamilton <chuck_hamilton_at_yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Off topic - replying to items on this list Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0f, build 69; ListGuru (c) 1996-2000 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-PMFLAGS: 570950016 0 1 Y02470.CNM
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

---end raw header-

>I find it annoying that I
> have to cut and paste email addresses to do a simple reply-all and
> include the original sender.

Yes, that is certainly understandable, but the question is, if Outlook/etc. are non-standard implementations, why should ListGuru have to be recoded to "reward" them for such? In that case, you ought to be complaining to MS/Yahoo/etc, not to the ListGuru people.

regards,
ep

>
> bill thater <thaterw_at_telergy.net> wrote:
> On Jun 28, Diane Whitehead scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
>
>
> ->Is this a feature of this list, or a feature of Microsoft outlook, or
> ->something individuals have selected?
>
> i think it may be an outlookism, since i can choose to reply to everyone
Received on Thu Jun 29 2000 - 14:36:26 CDT

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