Re: What should sys admins know about Oracle?

From: <Winnie_Liu_at_infonet.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:54:39 -0700
Message-Id: <10529.109465@fatcity.com>

haha.. it's not the first time they give me one big internal drive and tell me to put the database software and the database there. And when I tell them how many drives I will need to optimize the performance. They pass out... :P

WInnie

"Rachel Carmichael" <carmichr_at_hotmail.com> on 06/15/2000 01:14:20 PM

Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com

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Subject: Re: What should sys admins know about Oracle?

Chris,

They want their databases on that disk....

Rachel

>From: Chris Royce <Chris_at_Royce.net>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: Re: What should sys admins know about Oracle?
>Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:54:22 -0800
>
>Rachel
> Why not backup your databases to it --- Disk to Disk --- and then
>'whatever
>to tape (dlt)' and then, you now have a 'quicker' MTR, if you have a
>database
>failure. I concur --- wasn't that long ago that 4 GB drives started
>worrying me
>!!
>Gottat have those spindles !! I was recently forced to move a busy data
>base
>(scheduling) to a new server , albeit independent and 0+1 BUT I GOT TWO
>DRIVES (spread across 4 physical stripped drives) so what ??? I hope it
>will
>perform . Previously it was one of those data bases that ran too FAST for
>the
>application. Wee will see --- implementation in the morning.
>
>
>
>Rachel Carmichael wrote:
>
> > I am being given a "single" terabyte drive
> >
> > And I am expected to jump for joy. Sigh.
> >
> > >From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_bcbso.com>
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: Re: What should sys admins know about Oracle?
> > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:19:31 -0800
> > >
> > >On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Jonathan Gennick wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. Oracle needs lots of physically separate disks. Please
> > > > don't replace 9 4-gig drives with one 36 gig drive<g>.
> > >
> > >Good luck getting it. We are purchasing the new 'Shark'
> > >Enterprise Storage Systems from IBM.
> > >
> > >The smallest physical drive available is 18 Gig.
> > >
> > >The only configuration allowed on them is RAID 5.
> > >
> > >It is impossible to get a consistent stripe width
> > >across all RAID's.
> > >
> > >RAID 5 and cache are becoming the storage panacea.
> > >
> > >Jared
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 2. Mount points used for Oracle should correspond to
> > > > physically separate drives, or at least I should know when
> > > > they don't. I once had a sys admin give me 3 mount points to
> > > > use for control files, and it turned out that they all
> > > > pointed to the same drive. I had a difficult time explaining
> > > > to him why that was a bad thing.
> > > >
> > > > So what else? What else do system administrators "need" to
> > > > know about Oracle?
> > > >
> > > > Jonathan
> > > >
> > > > _____________________________________________________
> > > > jonathan_at_gennick.com
> > > > http://gennick.com
> > > > Brighten the Corner Where You Are
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:58:37 -0800, Chris Royce wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I DO agree with you about 'clueless sys admins' BUT, at all of my
> > >sites
> > > > >---- I have a 'pow-wow' with the sys admin and explain what the
>ORACLE
> > > > >systems archetecture is all about and the importance of just a few
> > > > >components.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Author: Jonathan Gennick
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