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RE: Would you allow this?

From: <Winnie_Liu_at_infonet.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:15:26 -0700
Message-Id: <10528.109335@fatcity.com>


Hey.. but if it never crashed, we will soon be out of job!!

:P

Winnie

"Miller, Jay" <JayMiller_at_TDWaterhouse.com> on 06/14/2000 03:36:26 PM

Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> cc: (bcc: Winnie Liu/HQ/ISC)

Subject: RE: Would you allow this?

Wow, you're trusting. My philosophy is: If the database isn't mounted, it isn't going to crash.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 4:07 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

He's right !
You should NEVER allow ANYONE to connect to a production database !! Production databases should ALWAYS be opened in RESTRICTED MODE !!!

> ----------
> From: Rocky Welch[SMTP:rockyw_99_at_yahoo.com]
> Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 16:25
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Would you allow this?
>
> Lisa,
> NO WAY UNDER ANY SITUATION!
>
> That's my opinion.
>
> --- Rachel Carmichael <carmichr_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Lisa,
> >
> > Get it in writing that you are objecting to doing this and that they
are
> >
> > insisting it be done this way.
> >
> > Not that it will stop the problems, but at least you can push the blame
> > back
> > on the ones who deserve it when it "all falls down"... and it will. And
> > they
> > will come after you for it.
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> >
> > >From: "Steve Orr" <sorr_at_arzoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: RE: Would you allow this?
> > >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:21:32 -0800
> > >
> > >Lisa,
> > > > I am concerned about it starting runaway queries and eating up
> > resources
> > >
> > >Definitely could create a headache. If you don't have a choice in the
> > >matter
> > >then create a profile/user account just for them, set
> > resource_limit=true
> > >and setup some reasonable CPU limits, etc. If they bump up against the
> > >limits then you can ask, "What's wrong with your software that it
> > consumes
> > >so much resource?"
> > >
> > >Then take two aspirin and call us in the morning.
> > >
> > >
> > >Steve Orr
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Beilstein
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:46 AM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >Lisa,
> > >Your employer sounds like a complete moron. If I was you, I would
start
> > >looking for another job. One of these days (maybe now), the database
is
> > >going to be hosed and YOU will get the blame for it happening.
> > >
> > > >>> "Allin, Sean" <sallin_at_trimarine-usa.com> 06/13/00 01:32PM >>>
> > >heartfelt sympathies
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:55 AM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >How many of you would allow a vendor to come in and do a demo on a
> > >PRODUCTION
> > >DATABASE?
> > >
> > >I am being overridden. I am being told to allow it, it's their
> > database
> > >and
> > >if
> > >they hose it (who knows what this thing is going to do?) it's their
> > >problem.
> > >What? It's just a reporting tool, but STILL! I am concerned about it
> > >starting
> > >runaway queries and eating up resources reserved for CUSTOMERS.
> > >
> > >Can you feel my headache all the way from Minneapolis.... I should
> > just
> > >take
> > >the afternoon off.
> > >Lisa
> > >
> > >
> > >--
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