Re: How much Unix?

I am pleased to say that at our site the DBA and SA are virtually 'joined at the hip' with great communications and an awareness that we are an "ORACLE SHOP' supported extremely well by UNIX administration. As the DBA I am UNIX aware (more than a little) and the SA is ORACLE aware (more than a little) soooooooo... a great team has been formed. Neither one could get along without the other BUT no 'toes get stepped on' (mostly). I might add that our Data Center Director was very aware of the requirements of putting together such a team and took great care in doing so -- that goes for the Applications Admin as well. BUT I will say this about being UNIX aware --- YES YES YES.

Thank you Jared !!!

Jared Still wrote:

> Being able to do an SA's job is not the same as
> actually doing it.
>
> DBA's that can't communicate with an SA at their
> level are at a distinct disadvantage when compared
> to those that can.
>
> Jared
>
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
>
> > so if I'm doing all this.... when exactly am I being the DBA?
> >
> >
> > >From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_bcbso.com>
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: Re: How much Unix?
> > >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:53:46 -0800
> > >
> > >
> > >Or more succintly, you should be able to be an SA.
> > >
> > >Jared
> > >
> > >On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, kevin edwards wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just my 2 cents ....
> > > >
> > > > DBA's should be able to accomplish the following
> > > >
> > > > 1. Basic troubleshooting of network connectivity
> > > > issues
> > > > i.e. netstat, ping, snoop
> > > >
> > > > 2. Server process monitoring & troubleshooting
> > > > i.e. sar, ps, truss, kill -HUP, top, kill -9 (my
> > > > favorite)
> > > >
> > > > 3. Disk performance monitoring & troubleshooting
> > > > i.e. vmstat, iostat
> > > >
> > > > 4. Shell programming (a absolute must)
> > > >
> > > > 5. Symaphore configurations (values & meaning)and
> > > > troubleshooting
> > > > i.e. ipcs, ipcrm
> > > >
> > > > 6. package info & installation
> > > > pgkinfo , pkgadd, pkgchk
> > > >
> > > > 7. Raid configurations & raw disks setup and
> > > > identifying whats installed
> > > >
> > > > 8. Server configuration
> > > > i.e. sysinfo, dmesg
> > > >
> > > > 9. General Server diagnotics
> > > > i.e. dmesg, vmstat, sar, iostat, ipcs,top,ps
> > > >
> > > > 10. General unix commands
> > > > i.e. rm, rmdir, mkdir, chmod, chown , dd, cpio,
> > > > etc..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- "Mr. Majestic" <rc_at_neomenia.com> wrote:
> > > > > If your an Oracle DBA, How much Unix should you
> > > > > know? Shell programming? etc....
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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