Re: oracle on novell

I also supported a netware ORACLE implementation a coupla' years ago -- kinda scary from the support perspective -- eventually moved them to NT. Yes you can but .......... not for 'mission criticle'... forget that phrase --- get out of it.

OK BYE Steve Orr wrote:

> Used to run Oracle (5 or 6?) on Netware 3 and it was faster and cheaper than
> our Oracle implementation on VAX/VMS. Oracle was implemented as an NLM,
> Netware Loadable Module. It had what was called "ring zero" access so it was
> very fast on cheap Intel 386's. Guess it's going the way of the BetaMax.
>
> Steve Orr
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Pierce
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:16 PM
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>
> Oliver,
>
> Basically, it is the unloved child of both Novell and Oracle.
>
> Netware5 comes bundled with a "free" copy of Oracle8, but you have to
> try to get support from Novell (or pay Oracle for direct support).
>
> Historically, Netware Oracle has had a few limitations. I don't have
> a complete list, and don't know what the current limits, if any, of
> Oracle8 on Netware5 are, sorry.
>
> Oracle7.x on Netware 3/4 is good for small databases. Due to
> Netware3's architecture, Oracle7 runs very fast on it, without
> requiring a lot of memory (eg, 64Mb, or 128Mb RAM).
>
> The biggest complaint that I have seen is that the support persons at
> Oracle are very "NT" centric. The "NT" part of Oracle's support
> organization also supports Oracle on Netware, and most of the "NT"
> people there don't know very much about Netware (and they seem to get
> *very* annoyed being asked to take Netware support calls). Be
> prepared to ignore the advice of the "NT" support people about
> Netware, and seek better information.
>
> Once you find a Netware expert inside Oracle support, keep their name
> around, and ask for them next time you get a problem (insist on
> "escalation").
>
> There are a few Oracle aware people on some of the Novell SysAdmin
> lists. If you don't mind listening to a lot of whining about how
> Netware is a great product that is dying for "unnatural" reasons (MS
> monopoly + Novell management's incompetence), you can sometimes get
> good info from those lists.
>
> Also, many SysAdms appeear to think DBAs are overpaid snots, so make
> a point of acting humble unless you are good in a fight. :)
>
> Subscription info:
>
> this one is more informal, low volume:
>
> http://hostigos.otherwhen.com/mailing_lists.html#NETW4L
> -
>
> this one is more formal, high volume:
>
> http://lsv.syr.edu/archives/novell.html
>
> NDS/Oracle integration appears to be an "interesting" on-going issue.
>
> regards,
> ep
>
> ---original message---
>
> Date sent: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:58:41 -0800
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> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > has someone experience with oracle on novell? I hear nothing about this
> port.
> > It is so bad or too small?
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Oliver Artelt
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
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