Re: METALINK and OWS

Senior means I get to dump the scut work (yeah right, if you know me at all, you know I feel guilty when I do that)... but it DOES mean I get to make decisions, and THINK about what is going on. And it means that the developers here actually ASK me how they should structure a table and if I have a better way of doing things.

And I gotta say.... the other day, I took a sqlldr run down from 3 days (estimated, we had run for 24 hours and gotten 1/3 of the records in) to 1.5 hours... all because I have had the time to read -- this list, the docs, the other books out there.

Rachel

Oh -- if you want to know how I did it -- I upped the commit from 500 rows to 10000 rows and went direct path on the load. Hot diggetty dog it works purty now!

>From: "Joseph S. Testa" <teci_at_oracle-dba.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: Re: METALINK and OWS
>Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 18:44:48 -0800
>
>I haev to agree w/Steve, senior means having to look up the syntax(damn,
>why does there have to be a alter system AND an alter database?????)
>but being senior lets you usually play with the kewl stuff and live on
>the bleeding edge(8.1.6 here !!).
>
>Rachel, i'm not that far behind you with 8 years exp :)
>
>joe
>Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> >
> > Now STOP THAT! I am not all that senior, except perhaps in age. I've
>only
> > been doing this about 10 years.
> >
> > As for remembering syntax.... it changes from version to version, right?
>So
> > I look it up... besides, if I have now shoved in the information from
>the
> > data internals class, I had to shove OUT something... syntax goes, I
>know
> > where to find it...
> >
> > My point was that people are telling me that they are junior and
>mid-level
> > DBAs when they can't answer simple questions (like.... if a query is
>going
> > to return 30% of the rows in a table, how would you tune it? [Answer
>I
> > got: hint it to use an index. EHHHHH! Next contestant please!])
> >
> > And I have learned, if the letters OCP are at the very top of the
>resume....
> > they usually don't know what they are doing.
> >
> > Rachel
> > >
> > > > ...clarify on this 'what is a junior Dba ,senior DBA'
> > >
> > >It's very subjective... compared to Rachel most of us are juniors :-)
> > >
> >
> > >Oh, Hi Rachel... On a similar note, I hate it when my "junior" recalls
> > >exact
> > >syntax while I'm still looking it up in the manual. :-( Oh, but being
>a
> > >senior means you're looking it up just to make sure nothing's changed
> > >between versions. Being the senior means you probably remember the
>syntax
> > >but you take extra precautions based on your vast experience. Being the
> > >senior means you understand the mechanics of the Oracle engine and
>don't
> > >have time to be bothered with small things like remembering exact
>syntax.
> > >Being the senior means you're preoccupied with larger issues like the
> > >business needs, the architecture, Oracle futures, EOUG, etc. Yeah,
>that's
> > >the ticket. Being the senior has nothing to do with Alzheimer's.
> > >
> > >
> > >Steve Orr
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Pierce
> > >Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:18 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Date sent: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:02:29 -0800
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > ><ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
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> > >
> > > >
> > > > Can some one please clarify on this 'what is a junior Dba ,senior
>DBA' ,
> > >I
> > > > mean
> > > > in what way does their job profile,job responsibility differ!
> > >
> > >Good idea. My guess is that generally "junior" means "getting
> > >started", and "senior" means "has more knowledge and experience".
> > >"junior" also implies "needs supervision", and "senior" implies
> > >"works independently to resolve issues most/all of the time".
> > >
> > >However, Rachel's main point appears to be that there are a lot of
> > >people "adjusting the factual information" (lying) on their resumes
> > >and *claiming* to be junior dbas when they submit dba jobs
> > >applications who don't actually meet the educational and functional
> > >requirements of *being* a junior dba.
> > >
> > >regards,
> > >ep
> > >
> > >--
> > >Author: Eric D. Pierce
> > > INET: PierceED_at_csus.edu
> > >
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> > >
> >
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