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Re: still further off topic --> RE: Work vs marriage

From: Ruth Gramolini <rgramolini_at_tax.state.vt.us>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:50:41 -0400
Message-Id: <10516.107555@fatcity.com>


Oops, I forgot to mention that I have two children, one from a previous marriage who is on her own and one going to college next year. I have my 4 and 1/2 year old grandaughter come up for part of the summer. Family first, work second except when there is an emergency. Then family understands. Ruth
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From: Christine Turner <christine.turner_at_ips-sendero.com> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:35 PM
Subject: RE: still further off topic --> RE: Work vs marriage

> Here I am....
> A female DBA, single mom of a wonderful 2 1/2 year old little boy. I have
> no one to call "the" or "my" except my son. Who in fact keeps me as busy
> as my job does. Talk about 24/7!!!! Anyway, I think some of this
> conversation should be changed to work vs family because not all of us are
> in fact married. But, just to jump into the conversation...."my" son (and
> hopefully one day family) will always come first. I have been known to
> bring him into the office with me before daycare opens, work from home
when
> he is sick AND take off early because he want's to go shopping. Yes,
> shopping....a "man" after my own heart!!! But you know what's the best
> thing...he takes it all in stride. There have been days that I have been
> late picking him up and I still get that wonderful smile that all children
> get when they see their parents after a long day.
>
> Anyway...that's my two cents worth!
> take care,
> Christine Turner
> DBA
> IPS Sendero
> Scottsdale, Arizona
> christine.turner_at_ips-sendero.com
>
> ----------
> Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 4:44 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> Here I am...
> A married female DBA with 2 kids 4yr and 2yr old
> My husband is also a part DBA / part team lead on Oracle.
> (Needless to say we keep a very close eye on Oracle stock prices..)
>
> I personally think its a HUGE task balancing my marriage,kids and have
> enough
> time to keep up with learning new things constantly,
> but I'm doing a pretty ok job till now.
> It certainly helps to have "my"(I've been reading that "the" v/s "my"
> thread
> too) hubby
> in the same field as me and understanding the pressures the job demands.
> Thankfully, even though I carry the pager, I've been working reasonable
> hours 85% of
> the time.
> I am ashamed to admit that earlier on there have been times when I've
> worked
> constantly(weekends etc) and seen my marriage and kids suffer, so now the
> golden rule is nothing is more important than my family!!!
> The most important thing is that I have a gem of a husband(read angel in
> disguise) without whom I couldn't have done any of this and fulfill my
> career goals/ambitions.
>
> Geeta
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> rsands_at_lendleaserei.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 4:56 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>
> I may regret this, but here goes ...
>
> Interesting thread, but it's been primarily from the male
> perspective. How many female DBA's feel they have been
> able to succeed in this field while balancing marriage,
> children and a home? How many of the men are married to
> someone with a job with responsibilities/hours comparable
> to that of a DBA?
>
> Just curious ...
>
> Robyn
>
>
>
>
>
> StevenHaas_at_ebico.com on 06/01/2000 03:28:31 PM
>
> Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> cc: (bcc: Robyn Sands/US1/Lend Lease)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have been referring to MY wife as "MY BRIDE" for over 32 years.
> Over the years she has become my best friend, biggest supporter, severest
> critic and "other half".
> She is also mother to our two happy, well-adjusted, successful, respectful
> and loving kids.
> I can't see a life without her; there would be little point.
>
> FWIW, that's my sentimental $.02.
>
>
>
>
>
> Christine Turner <christine.turner_at_ips-sendero.com> on 06/01/2000 14:21:47
>
> Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> cc: (bcc: Steven P. Haas/Waterside/EBICO)
>
>
>
> Amen Patrice! Your spouse is extremely lucky!
>
> ----------
> Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:36 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> I have a simple question:
>
> Why do some of you refer to your spouses as "the wife"?! It makes it
sound
> like you don't feel any attachment to her at all.
>
> Also, why was it "the wife's flowers"? Don't you live in that house too?
>
> Just curious, sometimes I wonder why people get married in the first
place.
> Peer pressure maybe? Maybe some men and women get married because they
> want
> to fit in, not because they really care about each other for the long
term.
> Never mind the vows...
>
> Nobody seems to have picked up on this.
>
> I am a man, and I never refer to my wife as "the wife." It is
> disrespectful.
>
> Regards,
> Patrice Boivin
> Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
>
> Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systemes
> Technology Services | Services technologiques
> Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique
> Maritimes Region, DFO | Region des Maritimes, MPO
>
> E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca <mailto:boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
>
> Ph: (902) 426-4774
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Kline [SMTP:maklinesr_at_home.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 12:47 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Work vs marriage
>
> Been there myself, and can relate.
>
> When I was Operations Manager, I had to coordinate the move of the
> data center, keep everyone pretty much ignorant that we had even moved,
and
> then provide the data side support of that move as the rest of the
> department, some 900+ people came to the new building. When they came to
> the
> new building, they put their terminal on the moved desk, plugged into the
> wall, and they were up and running.
>
> IBM said it was the smoothest move they had seen in 10 years, and we
> broke the system down at 12:00 noon on Friday and were up 4PM on Sunday,
> and
> only had about 32-64 users out of 255+ that had to wait till Monday
> afternoon to connect(bell tel had two bad lines). I had over 1,000 hours
of
> over time that year... Of course the state didn't pay, UNTIL they realized
> my taking "comp time" which I WAS entitled to would be almost 6 months.
> Then
> they paid me. Was nice for that year, but needless to say a strain on the
> family. But receiving 1/2 years wage as a bonus was a pretty nice "gift"..
>
> Now if I have an 60-80 hour week, which is very rare, management
> knows in advance I'll be taking an appropriate time off next week, or
> they'll owe my wife a very expensive dinner, or in one case a paid weekend
> in Colonial Williamsburg with car, hotel, and tickets to the events,
> etc....
> Fair is fair.
>
> I'm down to about 45-55 hours a week, but it pays well, and I'm DBA
> for about 8-12 companies, 1 to 50 gig. "No database surprises" and that's
> what they want. I work almost exclusively from home now, cable modem, 3
> phone lines, 5 computers. That's quite a change and it took a lot of
> getting
> used to. Flex schedules that if I have to pull data at 6PM, I may take a 2
> hour lunch, things like that. (I took a hour plus break during this note
to
> host a visit from my twins.... they popped in to visit.)
>
> Maks
> Tech Consultant
> maklinesr_at_home.com <mailto:maklinesr_at_home.com>
>
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> Author: Boivin, Patrice J
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