RE: still further off topic --> RE: Work vs marriage

Perspective is a wonderful thing.... Christine, it sounds like you and many others here have it...

having been through the experience of losing a spouse (darn, that sounds like I misplaced him), the ONLY thing in my life I regret are the days I did NOT call in sick to spend time with my husband. I seriously doubt my job would have suffered if I had taken a day off. The world would not have come to an end, the sun would have still shone.... and I would have had memories I can never get now.

I seem to be in an extremely pensive mood tonight.....

Rachel

>From: Christine Turner <christine.turner_at_ips-sendero.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: still further off topic --> RE: Work vs marriage
>Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 16:36:01 -0800
>
>Here I am....
>A female DBA, single mom of a wonderful 2 1/2 year old little boy. I have
>no one to call "the" or "my" except my son. Who in fact keeps me as busy
>as my job does. Talk about 24/7!!!! Anyway, I think some of this
>conversation should be changed to work vs family because not all of us are
>in fact married. But, just to jump into the conversation...."my" son (and
>hopefully one day family) will always come first. I have been known to
>bring him into the office with me before daycare opens, work from home when
>he is sick AND take off early because he want's to go shopping. Yes,
>shopping....a "man" after my own heart!!! But you know what's the best
>thing...he takes it all in stride. There have been days that I have been
>late picking him up and I still get that wonderful smile that all children
>get when they see their parents after a long day.
>
>Anyway...that's my two cents worth!
>take care,
>Christine Turner
>DBA
>IPS Sendero
>Scottsdale, Arizona
>christine.turner_at_ips-sendero.com
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>Here I am...
>A married female DBA with 2 kids 4yr and 2yr old
>My husband is also a part DBA / part team lead on Oracle.
>(Needless to say we keep a very close eye on Oracle stock prices..)
>
>I personally think its a HUGE task balancing my marriage,kids and have
>enough
>time to keep up with learning new things constantly,
>but I'm doing a pretty ok job till now.
>It certainly helps to have "my"(I've been reading that "the" v/s "my"
>thread
>too) hubby
>in the same field as me and understanding the pressures the job demands.
>Thankfully, even though I carry the pager, I've been working reasonable
>hours 85% of
>the time.
>I am ashamed to admit that earlier on there have been times when I've
>worked
>constantly(weekends etc) and seen my marriage and kids suffer, so now the
>golden rule is nothing is more important than my family!!!
>The most important thing is that I have a gem of a husband(read angel in
>disguise) without whom I couldn't have done any of this and fulfill my
>career goals/ambitions.
>
>Geeta
>
>
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>rsands_at_lendleaserei.com
>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 4:56 PM
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>I may regret this, but here goes ...
>
>Interesting thread, but it's been primarily from the male
>perspective. How many female DBA's feel they have been
>able to succeed in this field while balancing marriage,
>children and a home? How many of the men are married to
>someone with a job with responsibilities/hours comparable
>to that of a DBA?
>
>Just curious ...
>
>Robyn
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>StevenHaas_at_ebico.com on 06/01/2000 03:28:31 PM
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>I have been referring to MY wife as "MY BRIDE" for over 32 years.
>Over the years she has become my best friend, biggest supporter, severest
>critic and "other half".
>She is also mother to our two happy, well-adjusted, successful, respectful
>and loving kids.
>I can't see a life without her; there would be little point.
>
>FWIW, that's my sentimental $.02.
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>Christine Turner <christine.turner_at_ips-sendero.com> on 06/01/2000 14:21:47
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>Amen Patrice! Your spouse is extremely lucky!
>
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>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:36 AM
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>I have a simple question:
>
>Why do some of you refer to your spouses as "the wife"?! It makes it sound
>like you don't feel any attachment to her at all.
>
>Also, why was it "the wife's flowers"? Don't you live in that house too?
>
>Just curious, sometimes I wonder why people get married in the first place.
>Peer pressure maybe? Maybe some men and women get married because they
>want
>to fit in, not because they really care about each other for the long term.
>Never mind the vows...
>
>Nobody seems to have picked up on this.
>
>I am a man, and I never refer to my wife as "the wife." It is
>disrespectful.
>
>Regards,
>Patrice Boivin
>Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Kline [SMTP:maklinesr_at_home.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 12:47 AM
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> Subject: RE: Work vs marriage
>
> Been there myself, and can relate.
>
> When I was Operations Manager, I had to coordinate the move of the
>data center, keep everyone pretty much ignorant that we had even moved, and
>then provide the data side support of that move as the rest of the
>department, some 900+ people came to the new building. When they came to
>the
>new building, they put their terminal on the moved desk, plugged into the
>wall, and they were up and running.
>
> IBM said it was the smoothest move they had seen in 10 years, and we
>broke the system down at 12:00 noon on Friday and were up 4PM on Sunday,
>and
>only had about 32-64 users out of 255+ that had to wait till Monday
>afternoon to connect(bell tel had two bad lines). I had over 1,000 hours of
>over time that year... Of course the state didn't pay, UNTIL they realized
>my taking "comp time" which I WAS entitled to would be almost 6 months.
>Then
>they paid me. Was nice for that year, but needless to say a strain on the
>family. But receiving 1/2 years wage as a bonus was a pretty nice "gift"..
>
> Now if I have an 60-80 hour week, which is very rare, management
>knows in advance I'll be taking an appropriate time off next week, or
>they'll owe my wife a very expensive dinner, or in one case a paid weekend
>in Colonial Williamsburg with car, hotel, and tickets to the events,
>etc....
>Fair is fair.
>
> I'm down to about 45-55 hours a week, but it pays well, and I'm DBA
>for about 8-12 companies, 1 to 50 gig. "No database surprises" and that's
>what they want. I work almost exclusively from home now, cable modem, 3
>phone lines, 5 computers. That's quite a change and it took a lot of
>getting
>used to. Flex schedules that if I have to pull data at 6PM, I may take a 2
>hour lunch, things like that. (I took a hour plus break during this note to
>host a visit from my twins.... they popped in to visit.)
>
> Maks
> Tech Consultant
> maklinesr_at_home.com <mailto:maklinesr_at_home.com>
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